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If the date format is not YYYY-MM-DD it can fuck right off.
ISO 8601. Unironically the only ISO number I also remember.
I also remember as PHP programming language still won’t do it with this function: DateTimeInterface::ISO8601 DATE_ISO8601 https://www.php.net/manual/en/class.datetimeinterface.php#datetime.constants.iso8601
You need the DateTimeInterface::ISO8601_EXPANDED which can actually accept non compliant strings too.
PHP - wherever you see an intuitive solution it’s wrong or has important caveats.
My favorite thing about this date format is using it in file names. Sorting the files by name also sorts them by date.
Meeting notes 2023-06-29.txt Meeting notes 2023-06-30.txt Meeting notes 2023-07-01.txt
Thi is the way.
Everything is right about it:
- Lexographic sort
- Unambiguous months and days
- Acceptable on any document of record (lab, legal, medical, personal)
- Readable by nearly any culture (even us Americans)
for storing dates it’s awesome, for displaying dates it’s time to teach your programmer how to format shit for humans.
It actually is the best for displaying all-number dates to people as well because no one in their right mind will ever do yyyy-dd-mm.
So if you see the year first, you know the format. When the year is last and you see a date like 03-02-2023, you have to take into account the nationality of the author to know if it’s March 2nd or February 3rd.
But 2023-02-03 it becomes clear that it’s February 3rd.
I can’t even comprehend how dumb this image is.
Doesn’t that make you dumber than the image?
I love the mental gymnastics which have gone into the making of this infographic. Gold!
This is cursed. I love it
I thought this post was funny until I read the comments.
“Base 12” is nice because it is easy to divide into halves, quarters, thirds as whole numbers. The rest is a bit of a mess though, I guess.
Base12 Units would be much more useful if we used Base12 numbers
I actually agree that the metric system has nice round numbers, but this graphic is a hilarious rebuttal to the first one that just draws pictures to make their preferred system look like it fits into the pretty pictures.
Two can play at that game, lol.
Eh… The graph shows
“Inches in 8.33 feet”, and those 3’s will go on forever like 8.333333333333…
Its clearly meant to be a shitpost.
I like that every bar has a different scaling.
It’s an imperial log scale
How long do you have to sit on the toilet to produce one of those imperial logs?
You have to NOT sit on the toilet for 3 days
US date/time is actually closer to the ideal notation if you consider that for the majority of date references you don’t need the year, so July 4th at 12:45:59 actually makes sense and denotes time from most to least significant digit. If you just shift the year to the front, you have an ideal naming convention and no confusion in identifying month and day.
In European, the date goes from least significant to most significant digits for the year and most to least significant for the time. For all the valid arguments on the side of the metric system vs imperial, if you ever want to shut the argument down for date formatting just ask why they don’t keep the same format for date as they do for time, say 59:45:12 4/7/2023? For consistency that is how they should write 59 seconds after 45 minutes after the 12th hour of the 4th day of the 7th month of the year 2023.
just ask why they don’t keep the same format for date as they do for time, say 59:45:12 4/7/2023? For consistency that is how they should write 59 seconds after 45 minutes after the 12th hour of the 4th day of the 7th month of the year 2023.
By that logic, that time should be written as 45:59:12 in Imperial.
For consistency.
:) fair point…I do admit that MDY is dumb, my only real argument is that MD makes more sense, and that is what is used in the US. The fact that our next step is MDY instead of YMD loses all the credibility, and Minute:Second:Hour is a funny and well deserved mockery of that.
my only real argument is that MD makes more sense, and that is what is used in the US
Sometimes.
Sometimes it isn’t.
Like when people say “4th of July” instead of 7/4.
True, but that seems mostly limited to special cases, almost like Cinco de Mayo… It’s referring to a celebration more that a date, especially since it’s even rarer to say ‘The 4th of July, 2023’
I fucking love converting shit into imperial. It makes lots of fucking sence.
I’d even say it fucking makes cense!
Thanks! I hate it.
But in all honesty, this is almost like being inside a Canadian’s brain. I have to translate back and forth at work all the time, and even cooking involves converting things back and forth. I have no idea how many drams to a gallon, so I’ll convert ounces to mL, then scale as necessary, and then convert back to US customary because the measuring cups and spoons are labelled in American.
Same, as a Canadian I wish we just had everything in metric instead of 70% of things. If systems of units were money, metric would be paying with dollars and cents, while imperial is paying with sheep and bars of gold.
I also hate that we are loosey goosey with date formats. What day is 07/08/23??? I hate that the US uses MM/DD/YY format but at least they are consistent about it.
That’s either July 8, or August 7th. Depending on… Well. What whoever was writing it meant 😁
I actually like fahrenheit for weather. 0 is really fucking cold, 100 is really fucking hot.
Both are confusing. Let’s use colours instead:
Red = hot, wear shorts and a t shirt
Blue = cold, grab a jacket
Pretty intuitive without any prior knowledge.
You are joking, right? Or ha e you actually fallen for the bogus infographic?
I’m happy with metric generally speaking - except for Celsius when talking about ambient temperature. I will die on that hill. Freezing/boiling point of water is a ridiculous point of reference for temperature as experienced by humans.
Fahrenheit: 0 = really cold; 100 = really hot
Celsius: -17.778 = really cold; 38.333 = really hot
Not to mention that the Celsius grading is too big requiring use of tenths when discussing weather and setting a thermostat…
What? I have never ever had a discussion in my life about tenths of celsius when discussing weather or thermostat. Nobody does that. The units are small enough to be used in majors.
Freezing is excellent point of reference when you think about what effects it has on our lives. When water freezes, roads get frozen. When water freezes, pipes might blow up. When temperature reaches 0 Fahrenheit, nothing happens. Everything is same as 1 fahrenheit, or -1 fahrenheit. Nothing has changed, it is completely arbitrary.
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This is literally all about what you’re used to.
From my “UX” I know that
- < -10 = I can literally feel the heat being sucked from my bones
- < 0 = fucking cold, big coat and gloves
- < 10 = big coat, maybe gloves if you’re feeling soft
- < 15 = light jacket, especially if sitting around a lot
- < 20 = t-shirt weather
- < 25 = t-shirt and a beer garden
- <30 = absolute murder, unless you’re on holiday when it’s great
- 30+ = kill me now
I have no idea what 70F is - because I’ve never used it.
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70% of what?! What I consider hot, living in the north of England, is very different to what someone in Spain, or Nigeria, would consider hot.
Temperature isn’t volume, no one can conceptualise a 70% reduction in temperature because it’s literally not how any one, nor any scale other than Kelvin, considers it.
You can’t, like, grab heat and go “oh yea, there’s less here”.
Absolute clown shoes.
Edit: typos, various shit.
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Temperature above 100 F enter dangerous zones just like below 0 enter dangerous zones.
Except that’s not true, the deadly zones start earlier than that.
A heat-period is defined as day(s) on which a Level 3 Heat Health Alert is issued and/or day(s) when the mean Central England Temperature is greater than 20°C; between June and August 2022, there were five heat-periods that met this criterion.
20C is 68F, 30C is 86F.
While the report does make it clear that these were already vulnerable people who were already expected to die soon - within weeks or maybe months - it was the heatwave that pushed them over the edge.
In the UK, with our brick houses built to absorb and retain heat, and absence of AC, average temps above 20C/68F do kill.
Similarly, it’s reported that two thirds of the deaths in the 2021 Texas storm were due to hypothemia, in a state where houses are also built to shed heat. For the majority of the state, as seen in the article below, the temps were negative C but above 0F. I also think it’s fair to suggest a good many of these people were likely already vulnerable.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56095479
I absolutely agree that 0F and below temps are even colder, and even more deadly, but to suggest that is where it starts to be deadly is wrong.
Ultimately how humans experience and deal with tempurature has nothing to do with the scale we use to measure it, but what it is compared to what we are used to and how prepared we are to protect ourself against being “too hot” or “too cold”. It’s pretty much a perfect example of subjectivity.
If you prefer to use F than C, or K, or any other method, then go for it. But to try and argue that either method is inheriantly better or superior based solely on subjectivity is a fools errand.
Everything in metric is defined around distilled fresh water. The temp scales between 0-100 for solid/ice and gas/stream, and because water is almost incompressible then weight, quantity and volume all interact as well (1kg of water = 1 litre, 1 metre^3 = 1000kg = 1000litres).
Is that easier? I bake a lot, so not having to measure volume for water and instead being able to use weight as a 1:1 conversion sure makes easier when hydrating mixtures - but my oven being at 200C or ~400F makes no practical difference. Again it’s just what we’re used to.
That said, and I get why they were invented, but using cups, and thus volume, for compressible ingredients like flour honestly makes no sense. But now we’re wildly off topic.
