That’s why griefers like Rust. They get to do both. I have no idea how people still play because it’s literally impossible to break in and get started. It’s a self-culling population. I like the idea of Rust, but really wish I hadn’t paid for it.

hell let loose has neat system for snipers, requires 2 players, 1 sniper 1 spotter and as a result almost everyone runs infantry. fun game, very battlefieldy.

Sea of Thieves. I don’t know how many times I’ve gotten hate mail for sinking somebody.