• camjo13@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Personally I just want better policing so I don’t have to move my family again cause our apartment got shot up thanks to collateral damage.

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      1 year ago

      That’s not really the same issue. Also, policing isn’t going to fix that or it already would have. The states is the most over policed "democracy"on the planet. Common sense domestic gun policies, actual social security structures meant to help citizens, reverse the gutting of federal civil services like education, any I’ve one of these would help more than any amount of police and all of them are generally what most other democratic countries have. Dumping more money on unqualified overpaid ass sitters hoping for riot overtime for a new seadoo is how we got here.

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        I’m cool with everything you said, except the gun control part. Felons are disproportionately POC because of our racist police and courts. POC will be disarmed disproportionately. Now, if we do some blanket amnesty, mass decarceration, and defund, disband, or disarm the police, then maybe gun control won’t be enforced in a racist way. But in a country where literal white supremacist gangs run massive police forces, like the LASD, gun control will be weaponized against minorities. Also, gun control is classist and ableist.

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        1 year ago

        I mean, I used to live in a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the country, and had a lot of progressive measures in place to help citizens. We still felt like it was too dangerous to let our children play out of the house, and was proven right when I rushed home to 9mm holes in my door and windows. They weren’t actually trying to shoot at my house, it just happened to be behind who they were shooting at.

        Thankfully I found a new job and moved to the other side of the country and bought a home in an area that is much safer, and decent police presence. Sad that I had to leave my home state, but I’ll do what I have to do my children can grow up safe.

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          1 year ago

          I’m not going to hate for doing the more immediate things to protect your kids, but it’s extremely unlikely the police are the differentiating factor here.

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      1 year ago

      M8, how is that relevant :| better policing isnt going to fix the economic/social/mental health conditions that lead to shoot outs…