Your explanation does not make any of this less ridiculous. Just because people aren’t evolving or changing culture right along side earth humans, doesn’t mean they stay stuck in their old culture and never progress. You can explain it away any way you like but these are the star trek episodes that are inexplicably stupid and make the series look bad
Actually, if your group is small and it takes all of your time and energy just to not die, it’s really hard if not impossible to progress technologically or socially.
There are still tribal humans here on Earth in 2024. Not because they’re stupid or less evolved, but because they’re too busy staying alive to think about building roads or inventing mechanical devices.
The OP picture is an unfair slant. Those are FlyingSquid’s words. Those Irish didn’t colonize another planet because they were drunk or ignorant. They decided to leave the comfort of Earth to become pioneers and risk their lives on a future that was not guaranteed. They survived, and they had to continue surviving for centuries. And surviving meant focusing on farming and reproducing and sticking to what they knew. Philosophy was a much lower priority.
…And after only a few generations, I imagine the number of people who knew how to operate and maintain their ship dropped to zero. No time to operate a radio that no one is listening to when there are fields to plow.
IIRC the colonists intentionally wanted this way of life. To live in harmony with nature and all that. So I don’t get this critique of ‘they didn’t change’ when that was the whole point.
When humanity starts actually colonizing space (in Artifical habitats most likely) techno- primitivism in a wide array of variations is highly likely.
One of Trek’s biggest problems has always been the lack of scale. Developed star systems like Sol should have a population in the trillions, largely in Artifical space habitats that can be custom tailored to stimulate any environment imaginable.
The offensive part is that there aren’t hundreds or thousands such communities spread out all over the place, mimicking or inventing a bazillion variations of every imaginable culture.
Your explanation does not make any of this less ridiculous. Just because people aren’t evolving or changing culture right along side earth humans, doesn’t mean they stay stuck in their old culture and never progress. You can explain it away any way you like but these are the star trek episodes that are inexplicably stupid and make the series look bad
Actually, if your group is small and it takes all of your time and energy just to not die, it’s really hard if not impossible to progress technologically or socially.
There are still tribal humans here on Earth in 2024. Not because they’re stupid or less evolved, but because they’re too busy staying alive to think about building roads or inventing mechanical devices.
The OP picture is an unfair slant. Those are FlyingSquid’s words. Those Irish didn’t colonize another planet because they were drunk or ignorant. They decided to leave the comfort of Earth to become pioneers and risk their lives on a future that was not guaranteed. They survived, and they had to continue surviving for centuries. And surviving meant focusing on farming and reproducing and sticking to what they knew. Philosophy was a much lower priority.
…And after only a few generations, I imagine the number of people who knew how to operate and maintain their ship dropped to zero. No time to operate a radio that no one is listening to when there are fields to plow.
It was their choice to be dirt farmers and stay that way.
“followers of an early 22nd century philosopher who advocated returning to a pre-industrial agrarian lifestyle”
The other ship didn’t have that philosophy and developed a utopia. Their only problem was there were too few of them so they resorted to cloning.
IIRC the colonists intentionally wanted this way of life. To live in harmony with nature and all that. So I don’t get this critique of ‘they didn’t change’ when that was the whole point.
When humanity starts actually colonizing space (in Artifical habitats most likely) techno- primitivism in a wide array of variations is highly likely.
One of Trek’s biggest problems has always been the lack of scale. Developed star systems like Sol should have a population in the trillions, largely in Artifical space habitats that can be custom tailored to stimulate any environment imaginable.
The offensive part is that there aren’t hundreds or thousands such communities spread out all over the place, mimicking or inventing a bazillion variations of every imaginable culture.