Edit: Jesus Christ, people. If you buy a $150 Thinkpad made by slave labor instead of a $1,200 MacBook made by slave labor, you’re still supporting a capitalist economy based on slave labor. We all do. We have no choice. The number of smug liberals in the comments saying “well I buy a cheap used laptop” or “well I buy coffee beans and make my own coffee” are completely missing the fucking point.

Don’t tell yourself your consumption is moral. All of us make unethical choices every day because there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Accept your shame and guilt and let it drive you to do better.

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      What’s nice about apple is that they use high enough quality components that it lasts awhile. I’m the kind of guy to drive a Honda until it’s just about dead before buying another. I bought my MacBook pro in I think 2011 (maybe 2013, I can’t remember). It still runs fine. The battery is not worth much, maybe 30 minutes. But I have no real reason to replace it. Everything is fine. Compared to when I had cheap laptops before, I think I went through 3 in a span of 6 years.

      I’m guessing the key here is getting a laptop with high quality components that isn’t apple, but I don’t know which ones are actually good, and which are just artificially expensive laptops. Reviews don’t help too much either because so many are fake, and also that I don’t think many people keep their laptops 10+ years to compare longevity. I will probably go buy another apple when mine finally dies.

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        One of the places I worked had a nice little Thinkpad that was light AF and even had a touchscreen. You could still replace the SSD and RAM without tools. It also was durable as hell.

        There is no reason for parts in an Apple computer to be soldered other than planned obsolescence and making it impossible to repair.

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          The SSD no, but soldering RAM and sharing it between GPU and CPU can actually speed up performance.

          Modularity comes at a cost. There’s a reason the modular smartphone never worked.

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          I bet it also cost significantly more than a MacBook Air too, but my comment wasn’t even in defense of Apple. It was a general statement until this point.

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          And you also can’t usually replace their ram or SSD. Wild how I didn’t even mention Apple in my comment but apparently that’s the only laptop you think is light that you can’t replace the ram and SSD in.

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        And I would wager that the vast majority of people have no idea how to upgrade RAM or change an SSD, and many would be afraid to even attempt it, so weight is of much bigger importance to them.

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          Go fuck yourself with that shit. There’s plenty of laptops that aren’t bulky and aren’t Apple products, but not that many that aren’t bulky, aren’t Apple products, have self-replaceable parts, and are affordable.