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    If everything is political = politics then the term politics wouldn’t be useful because it would mean everything.

    You misunderstood me, took your shot, and missed.

    Move on. Do better next time.

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      The word politics is more useful to misogynist gamers and incels than it is to anyone else. You certainly weren’t using it for anything productive. I believe we should make the word useless for everyone.

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        ???

        Politics is a very clear content type what the fuck are you on about?

        I’m not saying politics like “if a game has a brown person that’s politics”. That’s wrong - a brown person in a game is political because Republicans can’t accept that diversity is real.

        I’m saying if your entire feed is politics like “Today the White House said Palestinians aren’t people” and “Today Trump tweeted incoherent nonsense again! Can you believe it” or “Marjorie Taylor Greene is being outrageous again: watch this video and be mad!”

        That’s politics. Everything is political - absolutely. That’s different than politicians and politicking.

        Politics as generally used is activities associated with the governance of a country.

        You don’t know what politics means. But you’re right to say everything is political.

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          That’s news. We already have a name for that kind of content, it’s news. What do you want to use the word politics for when we already have the word news?

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            Politics = activities associated with governance

            News = current events. Sometimes this includes reports on the activities associated with governance.

            When politics shows up on your feed it’s news.

            But when a cancer breakthrough shows up on your feed it’s also news.

            Politics often makes the news but the news consists of more than politics.

            These are really simple concepts. I’m starting to think you must be trolling.

            You’re arguing semantics without knowing basic definitions. You’re conflating terms that a simple dictionary could clarify for you.

            Is English your second language?

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              You’re talking about cancer breakthroughs like they’re not politics. Cancer breakthroughs are political. The allocation of resources towards particular kinds of research and its payoff is a contentious subject. The breakthrough serves to justify money that has been spent on cancer research. Although critics may say that there’s too much focus on cancer research when other illnesses are more widespread and more pressing. And for that matter, should we be putting more effort into limiting carcinogens in the first place instead of researching cures? An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Maybe I’d prefer the government subsidize induction stoves so that I don’t have to inhale carcinogenic stove fumes and later get my cancer cured in a hospital. That sure sounds like less stress for the patient, and it has the side benefit of improving climate change. Ultimately cancer breakthroughs are a deeply political subject, with a lot of different conflicting opinions on the subject.

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                Oh my God you really don’t get it. Politics doesn’t mean “anything that is political” - politics is an act of governance. Politics is what politicians do.

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                  I disagree. I think anyone can do politics. According to your definition, 10,000 people blocking the streets for a rally isn’t politics. A man self immolating in front of the supreme court isn’t politics. A scientist appearing before the UN to talk about the dangers of climate change isn’t politics. That’s silly. It’s also a circular definition, given a politician is defined as someone who does politics.

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                    You define a politician as one who does politics for the same reason you define an artist as one who does art.

                    Everything you mentioned above is political but that doesn’t make it politics.

                    It’s defined as “the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.”

                    Politics is what politicians, aspiring or otherwise, do. Just like art is what artists do. And music is what musicians make.

                    You’re using words wrong and then bitching at people for not using words wrong with you.