• JasSmith@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Two sides of the same coin. Socialists all understand that socialism is the transitionary stage between capitalism and communism.

    We continue to agree: they are not the same. Particularly democratic socialism.

    Prove it. I cited research that shows you are wrong, you’re simply ignoring the facts.

    The cited research relied on national reported statistics in its methodology. North Korea just isn’t a reliable source. Neither is China; which, by the way, is also classified as a socialist country. Further, the researchers normalised income, which radically altered the conclusion. Without doing that, the capitalist countries win by a country mile. You would have known that had you actually read the study you cited.

    To defend my premise, I would like like to cite all former and current communist countries, including:

    Korea, Democratic Peoples Rep. (North Korea)
    Armenia
    Azerbaijan
    China
    Georgia
    Kazakhstan
    Kyrgyzstan
    Laos, Peoples Democratic Republic
    Mongolia
    Nepal
    Tajikistan
    Tibet
    Uzbekistan
    Vietnam
    Armenia
    Azerbaijan
    China
    Georgia
    Kazakhstan
    Kyrgyzstan
    Laos, Peoples Democratic Republic
    Mongolia
    Nepal
    Russia
    Tajikistan
    Tibet
    Turkmenistan
    Uzbekistan
    Vietnam
    Europe
    Albania
    Belarus
    Bosnia & Herzegovina (Yugoslavia)
    Bulgaria
    Croatia (Yugoslavia)
    Czech Republic (Czechoslovakia)
    Estonia
    Finland
    Germany (German Democratic Republic)
    Greece
    Hungary
    Latvia
    Lithuania
    Macedonia, FYR (Yugoslavia)
    Moldova
    Montenegro (Yugoslavia)
    Poland
    Romania
    Serbia (Yugoslavia)
    Slovakia (Czechoslovakia)
    Slovenia (Yugoslavia)
    Spain
    Ukraine
    Angola
    Ethiopia
    Mozambique
    Colombia
    Cuba
    Nicaragua
    Peru

    Most of these countries are doing much better since eliminating communism. The data is irrefutable.

    Wow one data point! Incredible. Now do deaths from starvation, lack of clean water and curable disease. 20million die per year.

    I literally cited global hunger rates. I encourage you to read my comments above to refresh your memory.

    Global access to clean water has been trending up for more than a century.

    Child deaths from pneumonia.

    Diarrheal deaths in children.

    Disease burden from communicable, maternal, neonatal & nutritional diseases.

    I could do this all day, but you made the claim. Let’s see some evidence that capitalist nations do worse than communist nations.

    Holy shit your argument is “I don’t want these people to live so it’s ok”. Colonial brained monster.

    Once again, creating straw men. No one argued for killing anyone. Do you do his because your argument is weak? Does that normally work for you?