Privacy, for one thing. I don’t use Google, Bing, Windows, or any Meta software*, and Yandex aren’t much different.
Security, though, is another thing. I live in a NATO country, and I would imagine the Russian government are monitoring Yandex (and other RUnet services). Frankly, I think contributing any data to such a government would be against my interests.
There’s also a lot of censorship on RUnet. Yeah, Google has that too, but Mojeek and Brave Search do not.
TL;DR: Google is data-hungry and supplies data to the NSA; Yandex is data-hungry and supplies data to the Kremlin; Mojeek and Brave Search are good; DDG and Startpage are the best for the average user.
I’m going to make the assumption that a lot of people on Lemmy are FOSS enthusiasts and are therefore adverse to anything closed source, especially a Russian web service…
Apparently the brigade has found you, but i want you to know that i agree (mostly). Obviously it kind of sucks tohavve Russian as the default language on everything you get from there, and there’s some super-obscure music I’ve failed to find on there, but it’s basically my first stop these days, whether it’s Abbot Elementary or CompTIA training videos.
Yandex reverse image search often works considerably better than Google’s.
And their translator too. I use it all the time for Latin. Google Translate was made mostly for Romance and Germanic languages, so it sucks at assigning the right case to Latin, and the word order is often a mess. Yandex was however made with Russian in mind, that is syntactically EDIT: grammatically* closer to Latin in those two aspects.
I had 6 years of Latin in school and remember less than 1% of it. Talk about a waste of time. Bada bing bada boom shoulda learned Italian-English rather.
Sure. I’m not saying that Latin is useful for most people. It isn’t; I don’t expect most people to fuck around with Plautus, Cicero, Catullus etc. I’m saying that Yandex Translate is useful for me because of decent support for Latin, while Google offers better support for a handful of Latin descendants aka Romance languages (like Italian).
And it’s mostly due to a coincidence - because the platform was made by Russian speakers and Russian happens to still keep a similar case system as Latin does.
(…anche parlo italiano, ma davvero per italiano non uso nessuno - se non so qualcosa uso dizionari. Dà meno lavoro.)
Word order in Latin is only syntactically free. As in, if you change the word order, you aren’t changing who did what. However, you’re still changing the topic (whatever we were talking about) and comment (the new info that I’m adding in).
I’ll give you an example:
Puer puellam amat - boy loves girl; but more like “the boy loves a girl”.
Puellam puer amat - boy loves girl; but more like “a boy loves the girl”.
Amat puer puellam - boy loves girl; but more like “speaking on love, the boy loves a girl” (hard to convey in English).
Note how I used articles to convey roughly the same meaning in English. That’s because what Latin is doing with the word order is not too unlike what English does with articles. Sure, you can use “the boy”, “a boy”, or simply “boy”, it won’t change the basic meaning, but it’s still not “random”.
And guess which language happens to use a similar system? Russian. The only major difference is that by default (i.e. you aren’t focusing on any element), Latin would put the verb at the end and Russian in the middle; but it’s the same variability.
It’s a little less awful when you’re not on a VPN, but even if it had twice as many captchas, it’s reverse image search is so much better than Google’s and Bing’s how that it’d still be worth it.
Yandex, my friends
I don’t even care if the results are good. I’m not about to use any part of RUnet.
Honest question: why not? Facebook/Google/Microsoft are up to some disgusting shit, are their Russian counterparts significantly different?
Privacy, for one thing. I don’t use Google, Bing, Windows, or any Meta software*, and Yandex aren’t much different.
Security, though, is another thing. I live in a NATO country, and I would imagine the Russian government are monitoring Yandex (and other RUnet services). Frankly, I think contributing any data to such a government would be against my interests.
There’s also a lot of censorship on RUnet. Yeah, Google has that too, but Mojeek and Brave Search do not.
TL;DR: Google is data-hungry and supplies data to the NSA; Yandex is data-hungry and supplies data to the Kremlin; Mojeek and Brave Search are good; DDG and Startpage are the best for the average user.
Don’t be a pussy
Why noy? RuTracker is better than any other tracker, open or private.
I’m going to make the assumption that a lot of people on Lemmy are FOSS enthusiasts and are therefore adverse to anything closed source, especially a Russian web service…
What? We’re talking about websites, not software here
Guess what websites are made of
Oh I know this one!
It’s pipes, right‽
Tubes
Hollow cylinders
I thought it was dump trucks
Apparently the brigade has found you, but i want you to know that i agree (mostly). Obviously it kind of sucks tohavve Russian as the default language on everything you get from there, and there’s some super-obscure music I’ve failed to find on there, but it’s basically my first stop these days, whether it’s Abbot Elementary or CompTIA training videos.
Yandex reverse image search often works considerably better than Google’s.
And their translator too. I use it all the time for Latin. Google Translate was made mostly for Romance and Germanic languages, so it sucks at assigning the right case to Latin, and the word order is often a mess. Yandex was however made with Russian in mind, that is
syntacticallyEDIT: grammatically* closer to Latin in those two aspects.*case division is morphology in this case.
Oh you too are versed in the language of Romance?
Yes! Video related, that’s me!
Serious now. It’s just that I don’t recall which Latin descendants Google supports, and I’m not going to check it.
I had 6 years of Latin in school and remember less than 1% of it. Talk about a waste of time. Bada bing bada boom shoulda learned Italian-English rather.
Sure. I’m not saying that Latin is useful for most people. It isn’t; I don’t expect most people to fuck around with Plautus, Cicero, Catullus etc. I’m saying that Yandex Translate is useful for me because of decent support for Latin, while Google offers better support for a handful of Latin descendants aka Romance languages (like Italian).
And it’s mostly due to a coincidence - because the platform was made by Russian speakers and Russian happens to still keep a similar case system as Latin does.
(…anche parlo italiano, ma davvero per italiano non uso nessuno - se non so qualcosa uso dizionari. Dà meno lavoro.)
Fuhgeddaboudit
Sounds a little suss. All the propaganda I see about Latin mentions its free word order.
Word order in Latin is only syntactically free. As in, if you change the word order, you aren’t changing who did what. However, you’re still changing the topic (whatever we were talking about) and comment (the new info that I’m adding in).
I’ll give you an example:
Note how I used articles to convey roughly the same meaning in English. That’s because what Latin is doing with the word order is not too unlike what English does with articles. Sure, you can use “the boy”, “a boy”, or simply “boy”, it won’t change the basic meaning, but it’s still not “random”.
And guess which language happens to use a similar system? Russian. The only major difference is that by default (i.e. you aren’t focusing on any element), Latin would put the verb at the end and Russian in the middle; but it’s the same variability.
I can’t use Yandex as it just makes me complete endless capchas
Maybe you are a robot
Does that mean it should have its time wasted? Anti-robot bigotry is at an all time high and I, for one, think it’s time for change.
Found another one.
It’s a little less awful when you’re not on a VPN, but even if it had twice as many captchas, it’s reverse image search is so much better than Google’s and Bing’s how that it’d still be worth it.
Also consider Tineye.
What’s yandex?
Russian search engine