Won’t somebody think of the rich?!

  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago

    “When there’s no need to work, where do you get your sense of meaning and purpose and structure?"

    Like literally anywhere? Except maybe twitter, that usually doesn’t end well…

    • Asidonhopo@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Just because one financially doesn’t need to work doesn’t mean one is forbidden from doing so. Plenty of openings in retail with lots of opportunity for arguably meaningful human interaction.

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        6 months ago

        They could also, you know, spend time helping others, instead of being fucking social vampires.

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      6 months ago

      What absolute poison that some People come to this conclusion that, the ultimate freedom in an advanced 1st world economy, makes your life devoid of meaning and purpose when it actually gives you greater freedom to pursue the truly meaningful things in life like friends, family and your own self-fulfilment.

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Yeah, there’s a reason it’s always the new rich you hear about having these troubles. They weren’t taught how to deal with this, and had spent a lot of time defining themselves off their work. They just aren’t prepared for picking up three hobbies and a few social groups.

        And I think there’s selection bias here too. I’m never going to be new money. I’m too dedicated to my wife, community, and hobbies to dedicate my life to the pursuit of financial gain. And if I had that kind of money and time I’d be investing both into them. There’s always something you can help out with

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    6 months ago

    It’s almost like we’re under an economic system that perpetuates itself at the expense of literally every single person on Earth, and we would all be better off if we abolished it.

      • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        And me. Yes rich people, we will take on your isolation burdens. What wonderful, selfless people we are!

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  • TaldenNZ@lemmy.nz
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    6 months ago

    So all of you living-rough, dumpster-diving, skipping medications, holding down three jobs, etc - what do your therapist say?

    Oh wait, how much does this therapy cost again… But I’m sure there’s no selection bias.

    • OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works
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      I’m not sure, my therapist only schedules appointments during times that I’m at work and I haven’t been able to afford skip work to talk to him.

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      To whom? Who do you trust enough? What if those funds end up going towards gay conversion therapy or something like that?

      Unless there’s a government driven system in place which ensures reasonable utilization of resources, “giving it away” may cause more damage. Exception is if there’s a charity you super trust, but most of that funding usually pays execs salaries.

      Note that so much charity was done for pro choice efforts, but now some women don’t have the right to abortion in the U.S. because some people bought the Supreme Court. So no, don’t “give it away” unless either know where it ends up, or are okay with whatever the consequences may be.

      The only reasonable use of money in the current system is lobbying or political action committees.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I mean, nobody’s making you behave like a rich person. Grab a modest house in suburbia, send your kids to public school, and maybe take a few extra vacations a year to nice places but don’t talk about it. Guess what? Now you fit in with the rest of us.

    But that’s not what this is about, and they certainly have the option to not be perceived as rich. The rich want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to have all the wealth yet be treated like normal people when it suits them while also being treated like they’re rich the rest of the time.

  • Damage
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    While wealth can bring with it some unconventional problems — such as being denied an invite-only Ferrari and accidentally destroying swathes of coral reefs with a 300-foot yacht — most other problems that the rich face may not be as esoteric as we think.

    Yeah maybe such inequality shouldn’t exist, where someone can spend unfathomable amounts of money on bullshit toys, while others don’t have the bare minimum to live. Don’t accumulate this kind of wealth and you solve both problems at once.

    “Wealth can be pretty isolating … sometimes all eyes are on you to see what you do with your money,” she said, noting that some clients face the pressure of how they hope to be remembered, and where the money should go — whether it be investments, philanthropy, or legacy building.

    Yeah another psychopathic take, “I have to be remembered as a good person!”, how about you just make sure to DO good, who fucking cares how you’ll be remembered once you DON’T EXIST ANYMORE?

    • sudo42@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Yeah, it’s hard to feel bad for people who are “too rich” when it’s literally the easiest problem in the world to solve. Pick up a phone, dial any random number and say, “Hey, come over and pick up all my money.”

      Heck, they’re usually fighting off swarms of people every day that are trying to just that. Let them take it.

      • DessertStorms@kbin.social
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        6 months ago

        Exactly…

        Victimhood is like an accessory to them, put it on when they need a little pity party, or to socialise some financial losses, but quickly take it off again the rest of the time and be free to enjoy their vast privilege.
        Which is how they think actual oppression works, which explains shit like the idea of a “race card” and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps - they’ve genuinely convinced themselves that since their problems are mostly superficial and easily resolved (or buy your way out of), so are everyone else’s.

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    6 months ago

    So on some level, sure, boo hoo, cry me a river, right?

    But wealth, serious wealth, orders of magnitude disproportionate wealth will fuck you up. It isolates you from the majority of people, makes you paranoid, makes you unable to reasonably judge your success… There’s a Some More News on this, with links to a lot of research, and at this point, I honestly feel like gently separating people from any amount of money over 999m USD at most and using part of it to pay for therapy and the rest to help the rest of humanity might be the kindest thing we could do for them.

    • PlantPowerPhysicist@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Wow, sounds like anyone over a certain level of wealth should be institutionalized for their own protection and prevented from having influence over society and the economy.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      Yeah I’m somewhat sympathetic but also there’s precedent. Peter Kropotkin was a literal prince who gave it up and became a voice of anarchy and communism. One of the Haymarket widows was an heiress who gave it up to marry a condemned revolutionary.

      Stand as our equal and enjoy our community. You cannot be loved from a pedestal, whether you put yourself on it or we did.

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    6 months ago

    View other people as numbers, view the world as a zero sum game, screw over your peers because they would do the same to you, yeah that seems like it would be isolating.