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    That was true until very recently. It is weird talking to people who grew up atheistic who seem to think that religious folk conceive of their God(s) as family members rather than all powerful deities whose power is beyond human comprehension. Most of history God(s) were supposed to inspire fear.

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      That’s because for someone who requires evidence before belief there’s rarely been major unexplained phenomena to convince them of the existance of said power from any source.

      I can imagine even the most cognizant person running into problems with assigning things to a god without civilisations aggregated knowledge of concepts like atomic principal, meteorology, astrology, germ theory, social studies.

      Imagine seeing tornados, or super cell storm structures, flooding, plague, tsunami’s, all without a hint of understanding of weather, or germs, or global tidal movements, knowledge that’s only been globally accessible to the common man in literally the last 30 years.

      The normal person’s aptitude to reject god comes down to the ability to understand and explain anything that would prior be considered an unexplainable phenomena, which relies entirely on their grasp of the combined knowledge derived from all civilisations past.

      Education resolves superstition.

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        Wow, all of that and you never understood my central point, namely that believers don’t look at God as a person but rather an all consuming thing that is larger and greater than humans can imagine.

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          Wow you read all that and missed mine.

          Yes they do, because they attribute the powers of nature to god where Athiests do not because they understand the causation and effect.

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            No I got your point but it is completely irrelevant to what I was saying. You are talking about how you see yourself superior to believers and Im talking about how those people see their God(s). They are entirely unrelated concepts.

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              No I’m not, I’m explaining the differential in information processing, if you think I was trying to flaunt some superiority you’re still just as ignorant about what I was saying.

              I’m stating they see their gods as all powerful because they attribute the natural phenomena to being of a deities impact rather than something that is just naturally occurring.

              My second point was that without the combined knowledge and technological advancement of all of the world’s societies there’d be significantly more religious people (as proven by historical record) because they wouldn’t have the tools and knowledge to come to any other conclusion.

              So no, you didn’t get my point, and you only think it’s irrelevant because you’re too stupid to realise I was agreeing with you.

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                Yeah you completely missed the point. Most believers aren’t ascribing tornados directly to God and understand scientific phenomenon, that’s the bit about you seeing yourself as superior to those that believe. I don’t know why you would think this.

                Considering you in fact completely missed the point and hold an incredibly ignorant view of people I don’t think you should be calling anyone stupid as it is insanely hypocritical.

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                    Im not the one suggesting that most religious people ascribe commonly understood scientific phenomenon as being entirely caused by the divine.

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      Yeah, that’s one of many reasons why the term “Sky Daddy” makes me cringe if used unironically.