• tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com
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    So you learned enough about the history of computing to make claims like this, but not enough to know that practically all the first programmers were female and some even pioneered theory, techniques, and languages? For example Grace Hopper, who you are erasing from history here.

    I call bullshit. Either you purposely ignore these facts, or your sexism prevented them from being remembered when you learned them.

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      Don’t forget Ada Lovelace, the first computer engineer and the namesake of the Ada programming language.

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        She was a okay mathematician that did indeed “get” Babbages nonexistent machine (I forgot the name of it, analytic engine?). She wrote incredibly simple software for it. Who knows what she would have accomplished if she had a proper computer, but she didn’t and we’ll never know.

        In the immediate Postwar years there were indeed some gifted women in the field, but they were never the majority.

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      My point is that engineering us a specific job with a specific definition and the ENGINEEERS were not all women.

      I never said anything about any other aspect of computing so the rest of your post is just a straw man you added for no reason.

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        There is a reason several people have pointed out facts to you. You clearly want to deny the fact that women were very much a part of computer ENGINEERING

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          No Im denying they were the MAJORITY of computer engineers. This is an easily verifiable fact. You can look it up with the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

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            You’re just being pedantic. Women were extremely pivotal in the creation of computing [insert more specific subfields if you want, doesn’t change anything]. Your comments certainly all read as refuting this. It’s not controversial to the non-incel community.

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              Im only talking about computer engineering no other aspect of computing. It only seems like Im being pedantic because it has taken you this long to realize the point I have been making from the start which to be clear is entirely uncontroversial in history circles.

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                Oh so then perhaps you can link to these 1940-1960 statistics that somehow neatly and consistently segmented out computing roles into easy to define categories despite the fact that it was a new field and the lines between subfields were and always have been changing? Got a link handy?