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He’s crazy for trying, yet also based as hell
I mean… You gotta be crazy to try and open a gay night club in a place that criminalizes being gay and not expect to be detained or even killed. I get it’s likely a form of protest, I’m just not sure what their desired outcome was.
They have more balls than me for trying.
For his next act, a swingers club in Saudi Arabia
Global news coverage and maybe some light martyrdom on the side?
But don’t they have dances where they have sex with young boys?
In their defense, you’d have to be insane to open a gay club in Pakistan.
Or any Muslim majority country.
“Religion of peace”.
People are always surprised that I’m against Muslim immigrants. I don’t get it. I’m gay, seems pretty obvious to be against those who would rather I die. And I’m not against middle eastern immigrants. But Muslims? I have enough trouble with the Christians. Please keep your even more backward, fucked up religion in your shitty countries; which are only shitty because they are led by a backward, fucked up religion.
It sounds like a clever provocation, and he probably made sure it catches attention before they can silently move it under the carpet. He didn’t do any crime, he even proposed compromises to make it seem OK and followed official procedures, so they can’t (now, publicly) presecute him by law, but it offended their homophobia that much they found nothing more clever than dropping him into a mental yard instead of, like, declining his idea for some made up reason. What’s that if not a high-risk high-reward prank activism? At least, we now know that the state of Pakistan loses it’s shit over him touching that nerve.
I’m not gay, but I truely Admire him
You’re allowed to admire gay people without saying “I’m not gay” lol
I’m not gay, but you’re right.
I’m not gay, but well said.
Oh thank you so much!
Im not gay, but you’re welcome.
I’m not gay but thank you for welcoming the other not gay dude .
I’m also not gay.
which brings me to the next agenda item, opening a “not gay club” in Pakistan.
Well anyone not joining is going to be in big trouble.
Neither am I.
I’m not gay, but I do wish I was more fabulous.
Oh honey, you’re exactly the right amount of fabulous!
His mistake was not having a contact within the army leadership.
It was “not a mistake” for army leadership to not having a contact with the dude.
Glad we supported the Pakistani coup and decided to recognize the illegitimate and fraudulent Pakistani elections where they jailed Imran Khan.
And now we get bonus points for being able to whine about the right wingers we’re supporting!
As per Wikipedia:
The UN noted that there had been arrests of homosexuals within the past three years in 2018, 2019 and 2022.
So it’s not like LGBT issues were much better under Imran Khan either.
Pakistan now went more right instead of less right so I’d be surprised if it isn’t worse now.
I wouldn’t be surprised either, but you made it sound like things are a lot more clear cut than they actually are.
It didn’t sound like that to me. Americans meddling in other countries is par for the course.
The new Pakistani government is pretty extreme right wing so it’s certainly not getting better.
The bad laws were in place even before Imran - so that isn’t unexpected. However, only a democratic government affords any chance of revisiting it. Arguing that the situation is the same now is completely disingenuous.
Holy shit they can tell the lesser of two evils after all.
The difference is that America isn’t going to go less right if Biden wins. It’s already in a downward spiral and voting Biden isn’t going to break it. If anything it will strengthen 2028 Republicans.
Pakistan wasn’t caught in the uniparty trap yet.
I’m not saying his overall intent was a bad one. But if you try something like that, in a country like Pakistan, you do kinda deserve to be in a mental hospital. I understand trying to spread acceptance and provide a safe place to go for those not accepted by the local society at large, but maybe there are better, even slightly more accepting places where this kind of idea would pan out. I feel like this is equivalent to opening a dispensary in Thailand.
Honestly, better being committed to a hospital where he can’t be killed by a mob.
I’m all for fighting for human rights, but you have to fight. Just hoping for the best is never going to end well.
Opening the club was the fight. Because all the reason the commenter above you said.
He maybe should’ve known that it wouldn’t work, but does he ‘deserve’ to be in a mental hospital? Absolutely not.
Lemmy: protest groups have every right to block ambulances in the English-speaking world. If people die they die.
Also Lemmy: we have to respect the homophobia of Islam because Christopher Hitchens supported the Iraq War 21 years ago.
What’s wrong with a dispensary in Thailand?
Thailand and really most of Asia from my understand, has beyond zero tolerance for cannabis.
Thailand decriminalized Cannabis use in 2022. They’ve tightened the rules here and there a bit, but it’s the Mecca of Cannabis in Asia basically.
It will possibly be recriminalized by the end of the year.
Every Thai I know says that they don’t think it’s going to happen, it is leverage so the National Government can collect more taxes. “Ok we won’t ban you but you got to start paying more”
But hey that is just armchair speculation and this is a thread about Pakistan
Thailand has cannabis freaken everywhere a tourist might possibly be. I don’t know it if is possible to walk in a straight line for ten minutes in Pattya, Chaing Mai, or Bangkok without seeing cannabis for sale. And that is just official places, the stuff really grows like a wild weed there so tiny stores random stores will have the tea version for sale.
The first queer people here got fired from their jobs and left largely destitute. They were the ones that started the first gay societies and the first protests in front of the White House. Throughout the decades, many were fired, arrested, or died from poor health or deaths of despair.
Someone always has to take the first step.
I recommend reading The lavender scare, it’s extremely relevant right now, and I had to keep checking the copyright date because the same shit is happening the same way it happened in the 50s.
Its a crazy thing to try in a mullahville. Those guys hate anyone who isn’t their particular flavor. Pretty much like baptist with more power.
Not sure why he thought that was a good idea. Being gay is fine but Pakistan not the best place.
- Man: Hi, I’m from Pakistan. May I move here?
- Other country: No.
- Man: I guess I’ll have to open a club in Pakistan.
I imagine to make a point.
It’s kinda ridiculous, I hate that Islamic countries fail the separation of religion and state test. Education is a great way to change it, and just aiming to make people less religiously inclined.
Islam was designed to be all encompassing. A separation of religion and state is anathema to Islam.
Doesn’t matter, and same can be said of any religion. What matters is educating people and making them prefer secular states.
It worked for Turkey… until recently…
I don’t think I know what progress looks like anymore.
Read the book Psychiatric Slavery by psychiatrist Thomas Szasz. Limitless Peace!
He probably should open go-goat club.