I was looking through the megathread and saw this real-debrid thing. I have heard this name some times so I read what it does but wasn’t able to understand it. If someone could explain it to me I would appreciate it.
Also, it caught my attention that “it’s a good way to prevent your IP from ever hitting the torrent’s swarm, which is the main cause of receiving copyright infringement letters”. Does this mean it’s an alternative to a VPN when torrenting? Is it like a seedboxes or something? Are there any free alternatives?
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What a debriding service does is download the torrent for you, and cache it on their servers. From there you can download it from their servers without ever “touching” the torrent itself. Common uses for it are with Stremio, to stream cached movie torrents directly from the debrid service’s servers.
These services are also used to download from paywalled DDL websites, such as rapidgator, nitrodl, etc, so you do not need to wait 500 hours of 50kbps.
also really popular in Germany, because if you download the torrent yourself, you can get a huge fine from the copyright owner.
I’ve wondered if Real-Debrid actually is German made too. The dash in the name gives that vibe.
how does a dash sound german?
der strich… That’s how.
It’s the most commonly spoken (Western) language that uses a lot of compound words with and without dashes. I always tend to think there’s a German speaker involved when I see dashes used in English where a native English speaker wouldn’t use a dash, hah.
How-did-you-know-im-german??
It’s French, I suspect based on the entity receiving the payment
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So it’s similar to a seedbox but with even more utilities? I don’t really understand the cache part. It’s like they “save” the downloaded files for you?
Yes, and then you stream them from their servers. It’s quite different to a seedbox though, and that’s because (apart from torrenting) they have premium subscriptions to DDL services, such as rapidgator, to allow them to rapidly download the files for multiple people. Then, you download their “saved” version of it on their server. You have no real access apart from downloading from/streaming from debriding services, whereas a seedbox you have control over it, can install other applications, have storage limits, etc.
Does this clear it up?
How in the world could they possibly cache all that content? They’d have to be google massive to be able to do that, and all for 3$/month? Something doesn’t make sense
Storage isn’t nearly as expensive as it would seem looking at normal consumer cloud storage pricing. I think they also clear the cache of truly obscure content after a while. And I also think some of the “cached” content isn’t even stored on their own servers, but is actually streamed from one of the 3rd party direct download services. That would ease the storage and traffic load massively.
Files aren’t kept 24/7/365, but apart from that I cannot tell you as I don’t work there 🤷
Yes. I understand. I have only one last problem. I hate subscription services. Although real-debrid is really cheap so if I have to pay for something it will definitely be it. But just to know, are there any free alternatives.
No. Hosting dozens upon dozens of servers to cache files costs money. Plus, they also need to buy subscriptions to the DDL services themselves. No free alternative with these features exists sadly - alldebrid has a one-time payment for a month at €3.99, no wires attached. Pretty fair price to test it out.
I finally managed to familiriaze myself with it a week ago. Fucking awesome is what it is. In simplest terms Real-Debrid caches torrents so you can stream them from their servers instead of downloading the torrent. The cache is massive and expands constantly because any time something isn’t cached already, it is cached when someone wants to watch it.
I use Stremio with Torrentio addon, it just works. The user experience is much like any legal streaming services.
Real-Debrid conceals your traffic from your ISP by using HTTPS, but the service does keep track of your IPs. It’s best to create the account using an email untraceable to you, pay for the service with crypto or paysafecard and always use a VPN when logging in to the site or streaming. There’s always a slight possibility that someone manages to hack into the service and use your data against you, so don’t provide them any traceable data.
Real-Debrid costs 3…4 dollars per month, it’s not expensive. The free or cheaper alternatives are not good. A good VPN is another 3…4 dollars so combined it’s still cheaper than using a regular streaming service. I very much recommend getting into it, just remember to cover your ass.
PS. Real-Debrid caches torrents from like 20 different torrent sites and once they’re cached it doesn’t matter how many seeders the original torrent has. That means for example that you can stream stuff that wouldn’t even be available on the torrent sites you know or use.
Excellent overview!
I have one data point to add: Real-Debrid accepts Privacy.com virtual cards, so this is another payment method to consider if you want to protect yourself from possible data breaches on Real-Debrid’s side.
I’ve been using it for a couple days, set it up with Sonarr/Radarr but been getting downloads that stay stuck at 99% and more that just don’t start. Though I must say it’s often with older, maybe much less popular content (been downloading older seasons of Gold Rush). With newer stuff I’ve been getting very good results though.
So…does it allow you to eventually download the files, or are you limited to simply streaming from the remote cache?
When you stream something, the link to the file is automatically added to your RD account. You can use that link to download the file. Or you can skip the streaming part and just add stuff to your library and download them.
Real-Debrid conceals your traffic from your ISP by using HTTPS, but the service does keep track of your IPs. It’s best to create the account using an email untraceable to you, pay for the service with crypto or paysafecard and always use a VPN when logging in to the site or streaming
In the megathread it says it is a good way of hiding your IP, but you’re saying it isn’t totally secure. What exactly is the danger of not applying the security methods you’ve told?
Real-Debrid logs your all data. If they’re ever hacked or cracked down by police, you can be in danger. In many countries there’s a risk of heavy fines if you get caught pirating media.
Very much depends on the country, though. In Germany for example, it is illegal to actively share media (so upload via torrent), but it’s “legal” (ie, not fineable) to stream or download via one-click-hosters.
A relative of mine that lives in germany told me that it used to be like that but it got changed 5-6 years ago, is he maybe misinformed?
I just looked into it briefly and you’re right, there seems to have been some development:
Full text: https://www.juraforum.de/news/boersebz-direct-downloads-verletzen-urheberrechte_247270
Translation: Criminal liability of the downloader
However, users who download this data also infringe copyrights if it is obvious to a reasonable and fair-minded person that the public presentation (the offer on the servers of the one-click hoster) is made without the permission of the actual rights holder. This is certainly the case if, for example, a film is offered before its theatrical release. However, the obviousness should also be given after the theatrical release, since no one can expect a film production company to make its films available free of charge on servers of one-click hosts.
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
It also states that downloaders are currently not being pursued, because it is too difficult to prove.
It is officially illegal since a few years ago. But they usually don’t go after some person who streamed something, since it’s really not worth the effort.
But beware that not all VPNs work with Real-Debrid. Check their website for compatible services.
The website says that pricing is based on the country you are located in which sounds kinda risky to me tbh, is it still worth it?
Also if the answer is yes is there a country that I can pick in Mullvad that has the lowest prices? Or should I pick the country I am living it though I don’t believe it exists in Mullvad
Hmm I didn’t even notice the price would vary based on your location. Are you at https://real-debrid.com/ for sure?
I really don’t know what they’ll do if you use the service from an IP unrelated to the location you selected when you pay.
Oh nevermind, it says something like the amount in local currency will also be displayed. I somehow interpreted it as price varying depending on the country. Here’s the original text if you are curious:
You can find all of our premium offers here : https://real-debrid.com/premium
All our prices are in EURO (EUR - €) but it is also displayed in your currency based on your current location. If you want to double-check, you can convert them in your currency with this website : http://www.xe.com/
Informations :
- Additional fees may be applied by your bank if your bank account is in another currency (for currency exchange)
- There are no recurring payments (one time payment only).
- Days are cumulative, it means that if you still have remaining days, the days you buy will be added to your current number of days.
It can be found by typing “price” into the help section.
Choosing the country you live in when using the VPN would be better then?
Ah okay now I understand too.
I like to choose my own country in the VPN, I think it’s the best bet for connection stability. Contract wise I don’t think Real-Debrid cares at all what your IP is, so many people fake it anyway.
Hello! I started using the same setup recently. It’s fantastic but sometimes obscure stuff or programs not originally in English (don’t want to call them foreign, they’re not foreign when you’re from there) don’t have any streams available.
I understand there’s a way to find magnet links yourself and add them in real-debrid. I tried that yesterday but it didn’t find any seeds (fair enough).
Let’s say it would’ve found some, how does it then work to watch it in Stremio? You just restart the app and navigate back to the program?
BTW if you haven’t, maybe try also adding the Trakt addon and managing your feed lists from there, really takes it another step up!
From what I’ve heard, it scrapes and downloads from public trackers without ever seeding, basically acting as a plague on public trackers.
Afaik Debrid-Link is very similar, but also seeds like a regular seed box.
Besides the download torrent capabilities. It can download from some hosters (like 1ficher, and mega) as it was premium. So you pay for the real-debrid subscription which is low and has premium in a lot of those hosters. It is awesome and I strongly recommend.
How can I get started?
I use this https://real-debrid.com/ register for an account and pay the subscription. Then you can generate an API Key that you can use in Torrentio. Through the web interface you can paste links manually to download.
Thank you!
Thank you!
Just want to plug plex_Debrid in here. Guy who made it is awesome and having Debrid functionality in plex is so nice.
What is this exactly, how does it work?
The GitHub explains it great but in summary you mount your Real Debrid (or other Debrid service) account to your machine via rclone, so anything you’ve downloaded on Debrid is available on plex.
Then there’s a script that watches the plex watchlist for new requests and then scrapes torrents to get it. (similar to stremio): If it’s cached (already available on real Debrid) then you can watch it instantly. Which is majority popular content. More niche stuff it may have to request Debrid to download and try again later
Then refreshes plex to scan the library for the download.
Even works outside of plex with things like overseerr, jellyseerr, trakt to monitor requests. Also can use Trakt to manage your library. Even Support for other scrapers like jackett and torrentio and you can set it to refresh your jellyfin library if you aren’t using plex.
Looks interesting, I’ll read the git as you suggested - thanks.
Just be aware that it’s still very much in beta and the support is not that great (that’s how my experience was anyway). There will be a lot of pain of set it up. But once it’s set up it does work well for the most part. However I am going still sticking with my current setup on Seedbox with acquiring my media via ARR software and then saving it on the cloud to be served via Plex to myself and my friends and family. Good luck!
I still very much need to get my head around the aar software - something I find difficult as the more I look into it, the more complicated it seems to get.
More than happy to help if you are stuck.
Nice one. Ok if I get my head into where I want to be with this and come back to you? Much obliged for the offer.
As a nob, the setup steps look do able, but I think I need to get jellyseerr first and then this.
I may need to run my server on a PC to get VPN connection… Hmm… Thanks👍
Yeah I have my whole server running on an old gaming pc. I use cloudflare to open up my network instead of ports. Then my unifi gateway opens up my vpn for things I don’t want to open up via cloudflare
I need to see about using a VPN for my local network…
Did you follow any guides for cloudfare? I would like to achieve this as well.
No specific guide I can remember but it was very simple. Cloudflare has some good docs too if you get stuck.
- Need to have a domain. Doesn’t need to be through cloudflare (I use namecheap)
- Need to setup a free account on cloudflare and follow the steps on there to point your domain to their DNS.
- Then from your cloudflare dashboard you can open up the zero trust dashboard. From here you can create a tunnel and it gives you steps to setup cloudflared on your server/machine.
- Once the tunnel is setup you just need to setup each subdomain on the tunnel. Like rss.donain.com points to 192.168.1.224:5555 for example. Now when you go to rss.domain.com it will load up the page running on at 192.168.1.224:5555. SSL certificate and everything.
- Optional step to also setup an “application” on zero trust dashboard for each of your services. This lets you pick an email or ip range or something and only that is allowed into the domain.
I think that’s everything but feel free to message me if you have questions.
Thank you so much. I’ve got it working now and was rather simple!
Speaking of, it’s been a while since I’ve looked at these downloaders. What are the most recent and good ones?
put.io is pretty popular
Put.io only has torrents, though. There’s also premiumize.me which has torrents, Usenet, and some DDL. It has been a bit of hit and miss for DDL, though.
It basically downloads torrents to their servers so you don’t directly download torrents. As another person said you can also use it with the torrentio addon for stremio. It fucking rocks
So happy I read this thread. Had it setup in no time and will be cancelling all of my streaming services. $30/year for this is pretty incredible.
It also works to generate premium links from direct download services like Mega for example.
It’s torrenting 2.0.
It’s Torrenting 0.0
Thats also their ratio
Well that’s true. They’ve already torrented it for us. So there’s no need for us to actually torrent it again. No time spent waiting, no storage space necessary, no VPN’s- just instantaneous streaming to your TV. Too good to be true.
