• UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Everyone knew Biden was going to screw up, and yet they went ahead with it. How could this be?

      They didn’t know. Biden was a lot more lucid in prior appearances, like the state of the union speech. They genuinely didn’t know it would go like this.

      Biden and his team wanted the debate, the idea was to remind the people how unhinged Trump was early enough.

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        They knew because they know what Biden is like in private when he’s not on amphetamines

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            You know, they! “The Oligarchy” as Axios called them. His wife, daughter, son, and some old white dude. Also probably his entire cabinet sees him in various states of disrepair in the White House. He can’t be buzzing on meth all day every day.

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      if i were the deep state ‘cleaning house’ why would i hitch my wagon to the walking corpse instead of hand-picking a better successor? if the natsec ghouls are in the drivers seat, they’d be not worried about trump (idk why you assume he’d be incompatible) or if they were, they’d be ditching biden.

      overall the debate was just farce and hubris, no need to add behind the scenes designs to what can be elegantly explained from incompetence & arrogance

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        In fairness, the term “deep state” used to be a term referring to unelected bureaucrats in the various government agencies that persisted between admins and carried out the day-to-day operations of empire. Then Trump adopted it and it became a calling card for MAGA cranks.

        FWIW I don’t agree with the other poster, imo this is just more dem incompetence like we saw in 2016 and 2020, and the deep state is disorganized and their “goals” are more or less the same as those of every establishment politician (including Trump).

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      Given that the DNC proposed the early debate, and scheduled it for a time in the evening when Biden would be sundowning, they have to have expected and wanted the result. Presumably so their replacement for him would have enough time to solidify things before the convention so that it can be properly stage-managed. But then why haven’t they replaced him yet?

      I don’t think it’s the MIIC; I still think it has to be DNC-internal politics.