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  • Das Thema wird in anderen Ländern halt ganz anders gesehen als hier (in Deutschland). Frag mal die Franzosen, was die von ihrem Atomstrom denken. Oder die Amerikaner (die auf reddit sehr dominant sind). Wenn man den deutschsprachigen Diskurs zu dem Thema gewohnt ist, sind diese Meiningen erstmal ungewohnt.

    Dass die über den deutschen Strommix nicht viel wissen sollte auch nicht zu überraschend sein. Viele dieser Leute sind über Memes informiert. Die wissen von Nord-stream, dem Atomausstieg und den hohen Strompreisen. Ähnlich wie hier vor ein paar Jahren viele aus drei Schlagzeilen über Griechenland die einzig richtige Meinung ableiten konnten.


  • I mostly agree with your conclusion, but this is a very american (I.e. ignorant) response to her concern and i am not surprised she wasnt receptive. I think you underestimate the difference between a country like yours (which has always been a ‘salad bowl’ of cultures united by a commitment to liberalism) and mine (Germany, which is essentially a big tribe of tribes). This difference is even more stark if you look at a place like Denmark.

    Here are a few of your points that gave me this impression:

    Germany is actually younger than the US

    Her concern is (to me) obviously independent of the state we happen to live under. Germaneness is not tied to a political entity. East Germans were German, Volga Germans are German and the German speaking people under the hre were German. (“German” Americans are not German btw.) This also makes your comment about

    Her mom was an East German and described to us how they had an entirely separate culture

    baffling (to me).

    US culture has, … tangibly benefitted from immigration over the centuries.

    The us is in many ways a much worse country than Germany (or almost any EU country). I don’t see why we should strive to emulate that model.





  • CHINESEBOTTROLL@lemm.eetoMemes@lemmy.mlLenin
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    My argument is not “look how many attempts have failed” but “look, of all of these many attempts, every single one has turned into a kafkaesque nightmare”. At this point it is not even clear that “successful communism” is something that can exist in our world

    On the other hand, while many (depending on your perspective you might even say most) capitalist systems fail, there are absolutely some that work ok. Of course nothing is perfect in the real world. But the life of say a danish person is not only materially well off, but also free and full of dignity, which was true of none of the experiments in communism




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    the atrocities of the system that keeps you fat and happy.

    You misunderstand. That is not capitalism but CRONY-capitalism. The two concepts are anrithetical. In REAL capitalism everyone respects the non-agression principle and therefore everyone is free. Crony capitalism is actually the LEAST capitalist system and is closer to socialism, because the government does stuff. I am very smart


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    Communism doesn’t include a hierarchy of power enforced by violence

    Very convenient, since nothing will ever meet this standard, so you will be able to say “that’s not communism” for the rest of your life. Actually sounds like the definition on anarcho capitalism

    The two concepts are antithetical

    Maybe to you, but many of the people in power at the time believed they were on the way to communism

    USSR was somewhere between capitalism and fascism

    I know of two common definitions of capitalism: “a system mostly organized around a profit-motive” and “a system in which individuals are mostly free to enter into consensual contracts”. I don’t see how the USSR is close to either of these. It was closer to fascism, tho there are also large differences


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    failed attempts

    They didn’t fail. I mean you can criticize the ussr, but it was not capitalist

    which were sabotaged by capitalists

    What a weird thing to say. The USSR had sovereign control over the largest country in the world by far + a lot of allies. The capitalists can’t even get rid of north Korea. Its not the capitalists, the system is just shit

    the need to rebel is the problem

    I mean its fine to rebel, but if your goal is communism I will bet on another case of “tHatS nOT rEaL coMMUnIsM”


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    countries in which the Dictatorship of the Proletariat failed to cede power to the working class and establish a socialist economic structure

    Oh, so like every single other place that tried to implement that deranged system? Thank you for this very important distinction.