If you praise insufficient effort, don’t be surprised when you don’t get sufficient effort.

ICE cannot be reformed.

The pool of “talent” from which ICE hires is comprised entirely of the sort of people who would willingly apply to join ICE.

Yes, thank goodness we saved Gaza by keeping those dems out of office.

Harris lost because the voters felt alienated. You may not care. You may not think that matters. At the end of the day, it did.

The voters voted for childcare. They voted for family leave. They voted for rescheduled cannabis. They voted for a minimum wage increase. They gave the party enough seats to do what Biden campaigned on, and then watched the clearest display of utter disregard for the voice of the people we’ve seen in decades. The voters saw a party that knew what they wanted, knew how to help them, and chose not to.

The voters wanted justice for January 6. They got a justice department chaired by a republican with no concept of urgency. The voters saw a party that was uninterested in pursuing justice against insurrectionists.

The voters did not vote for the foreign policy they got from Biden. They did not vote for unconditional support for genocide. At this point, we were almost 3 years into a Biden presidency that wasn’t going to help them. The voters saw who the party was willing to help.

Then the voters saw the party sue as many opponents off the primary ballot as they could. They saw the party try to pretend that a primary where only one candidate was on the ballot in all 50 states was somehow a competitive honest primary. The voters saw who the party was willing to fight against, and it wasn’t Republicans.

When it became clear that Biden was not up to the task before him, they appointed Harris nominee without anything approaching input from the people. The voters saw a party leadership abusing an old man in order to cling to power they refused to wield, and a party willing to disregard the will of the people so thoroughly that they didn’t even bother asking anymore.

But even that wasn’t enough. When people started griping that they couldn’t afford groceries, the messaging from the party could not have been more tone deaf. Telling people whose lives are getting worse that things are improving is asking them to buy something contrary to what they are feeling, sometimes literally on a visceral level. Democratic voters are not as willing to deny the evidence of their senses as Republican voters are. They saw a party that expected them to buy bullshit instead of groceries.

And then Harris said she wasn’t going to differ from Biden in any significant way. Which dashed any hopes of anything improving.

And then Democrats adopted Republican border policy. Which wasn’t enough for Republicans, naturally, but it alienated even more people Democrats needed. Voters saw a party that was willing to abandon vulnerable people and get nothing out of it.

If Democrats had been actively trying to alienate every voter who was even remotely willing to vote for them, they couldn’t have done much worse.

Then the election happened and Democrats blamed the voters. Well, we’re back where we started on this. Only now the electorate doesn’t trust Democrats.

And it’s not like Democrats have been doing much to regain their trust. The party ousted David Hogg. Party leadership campaigned against their own nominee in New York City after more than a decade of “blue no matter who.” Centrists’ darling Newsom is going on a capitulation tour, letting Charlie Kirk know that he agrees with him about trans people, and letting Ben Shapiro know that he doesn’t think the genocide in Gaza happened. And this is what centrists expect their base to vote for. After a primary no one seriously believes will be honest.

Oh, those unreasonable spoiled voters. We give and give and give and they still stay home.

If you want to get non-voters to vote, you need to give them a reason to vote. You’ve just seen that shouting at them and demanding that they vote for someone they don’t want to vote for doesn’t work, regardless of how severe the consequences are. You’re determined to continue along this course of action no matter how many times it fails.

The voters you need are alienated. What will you do to get them back? More of the same is not an acceptable answer, because it has to be clear to you by now that it will never work. Dismissing them entirely and moving to the right hasn’t worked either. It just alienates people the party breaks solidarity with in order to chase republican votes, and the republicans it aims to get still vote republican.

If Democrats do not change, they will continue to lose. That’s not some petulant tankie demanding perfection. That’s someone looking at political reality as it currently stands, assessing the failures of the Democratic Party, and telling you that if they don’t change, they will lose.

His goal will never be to specifically kill Americans

I hope you’re right.

When talking to anyone left-of-center, encourage them to vote in elections, especially primaries

I think the greatest encouragement to vote in primaries would be if the party were to provide some assurance that they’re willing to run primaries without tilting the scales in favor of the people that the establishment likes and no one else does.

Or indeed, run primaries at all. People to the left are shut out of the party at every turn, and then told “You’ll be voting for a pro-genocide ghoul because we decided for you. If you don’t like the candidate we ordered you to like, it’s your fault for not voting in the primaries we didn’t have.”

That message may be satisfying to centrists, but it alienates the left. It’s a losing message and the party can no longer afford to keep sending it.

We tried to warn you that genocide was a losing issue.

You were so devoted to netanyahu that you didn’t care.

Centrists have demonstrated that they’re just fine with losing to fascists so long as they don’t have to say no to netanyahu.

Stop pretending the primaries are honest.

What do you use the terminal and config files for?

Excuses for staying on windows, primarily.

They have to justify the inbreeding of the monarchy somehow.

Denying an obvious genocide is support for that genocide.

So it’s no surprise to see who’s demanding fealty in this thread.

Whereas he just clinched your support by denying genocide.

Yep. I foresee cancelling of the midterms, then seeing the fallout from that.

I foresee elections happening, but ice kidnapping people waiting in line to vote.

You’re happy to have trump as long as no one told netanyahu no.

They’ve been given a platform to spread their hate. Yes.

They verified that the account belonged to ICE and didn’t ban it for being, you know, the fucking gestapo.

Where nazis are welcome, no one else is.

Of course, that’s why so many of the losers among us go off the right-wing/incel deep end: if you’re living on easy mode and you still manage to fail, you’ve got nobody to blame but yourself.

I mean, if you want to think that about those who are suffering, don’t be surprised if they latch on to the first con man who feigns compassion. Since you have none.

So he’s got nothing to lose and he’s still not doing anything.

They never did a mirror universe episode or a section 31 episode, so they have that going for them.