Brilliant idea. I’m sure he’ll be the first to sign up to work for the council or the police for free.

Imagine the outcry if this had happened in a real democracy, like Venezuela.

Where does this overwhelming numbers thing come from?

Remember when the war started and all the newsmedia was making a big deal out of Russia invading with 150,000 soldiers? Meanwhile, Ukraine had triple that.

You ever think your world view might be a little… curated?

Ukraine is starting to topple, and the US has to ensure the right sort of people maintain control of whatever is left.

Who would win in a coup, the depleted conscript armed forces, or well armed, ideological paramilitaries with outside funding and direction?

Hey folk hear that? Israel’s open air prison camp just kinda started this shit, today.

rude and uncivil.

These weapons are the kind of thing the Ukrainians have developed to “retaliate” against random civilian housing blocks whenever Russia craters a command center. They’re basically modern V1/V2 rockets “This will terrify the russian population into submission!!”

^ yep

Why are you linking an actual propaganda thinktank as an example as of Uyghur Genocide?

You could link any source, but you link one that is staffed by people who’s careers have been purely to lie about American’s enemies and push American interests?? I hope you’re a little sharper than that and you’re just linking that because you hope other people will swallow anything.

“HEY GUYS THIS ORGANIZATION THAT IS PAID TO TELL ME THAT CHINA IS BAD, GET THIS, SAYS CHINA IS BAD!!”

Come on bud.

Hexbear - “that’s true, I see how our culture can be hard to decipher”

Lemmylib - “you guys are huge dicks without provocation”

Hexbear - oh well fuck you then :)

Lemmylib - “see, so hostile!”

If we respond to people being needlessly aggro with quip derision it’s “so uncivil!” If we respond to people in good faith by trying to explain our differing views it’s “wow im not going to read that!”

So what should we do?

Most civil and good faith lemmylib.

Americans can call the sky green as much as they want. In the rest of the world, Liberalism = Liberalism, not “democrat”.

Liberals are people that believe in liberalism, which can be summed up as “everyone has the individual right to be an asshole, even if it fucks everyone else over”.

Fascism is only a vibe, and the vibe is “something CmdrShepard disagrees with”

This is revisionist, river rock stacking and outdoor cats are strictly forbidden.

Nah we clock in early.

“hexbear is toxic”

You’re likely getting that response because Hexbear has developed it’s own culture of having earnest conversations that are intended to enrich and inform the users taking part in the discussion.

The derisive, dismissive responses are a reaction to someone breaking that etiquette by grandstanding, accusing people of logical fallacies, or resorting to insults: these are things that indicate that the person isn’t sincerely interested in trying to understand the person they are speaking to.

That’s the second person from hexbear that you didn’t realise at the time of posting. You’re going to have to get better at spotting us if we’re so awful.

telegraph getting upset about free markets?

We don’t need it. Just use lemmy and engage.

Let them rant about downvotes and brigading as much as they like. We’re not downvoting or using any kind of targeted harassment and they’re still running scared.

I forgot how fragile and cowardly liberals on the internet are. Hexbear has spoiled me because you get actual communication with people who are willing to defend their beliefs in a passionate, level way without getting nasty.

Even just calmly telling someone “hey we can’t downvote you” is seen as harassment