That’s crazy
That’s crazy
We Middle Easterners can be way more racist and nationalistic than some drunk skinhead losers in Europe. That guy seems to be the type that browses r/AskMiddleEast or r/exmuslim. Maybe some guy from a broken family, daddy issues or whatever, I am not his psychotherapist lol. Fact is tho, that Nazis use this story as validation and that his supporters are mostly fascists as well.
“Social experiment” was in response to the commenters that claimed that the Quran burning was simply an experiment to expose “the true nature of the religion of peace”.
If you don’t share this view, then I am sorry for misrepresenting your opinion. “Social experiment” was not meant to be a quote.
These Iraqis are not Swedish citizens. The book burning is happening in Sweden. I don’t agree with the violent response by these hooligans in Iraq and they should be held responsible. There is no rule of law in Iraq, so no idea how Iraqi authorities will respond.
But the book burning should not have happened in the first place, not because of the reaction in Iraq, but because it is not something a civilised society should condone.
I will not comment on this any further. These are my thoughts on this topic.
Is praying publicly the same for you as burning the Quran? I don’t see the similarity.
Arguing which religious scripture is worse is a useless excercise imo.
I don’t argue against criticism of the Quran. Even in Iraq, there are many people, that publicly do this.
Burning the Quran is not a critique and is not an invitation of a civil discussion. It is a declaration of extreme hate. Assuming anything different is just being overly charitable to a bunch of literal neo-Nazis.
Swedish law guarantees freedom of religion. You can criticise the Quran, you can hate it, you can promote alternative humanist interpretations of the Quran, but the Quran itself will always be the symbolic representation of Muslims. This is simply reality.
Every ancient religious text has passages that did not age well, that is still not a reason to spread hate tho.
I’m not saying that this demonstration should be banned, because people in Iraq got aggressive.
I’m saying that this demonstration should be banned, because this demonstration goes against modern Swedish values and laws. Being openly hostile towards certain religious minorities and ethnicities is not something Swedish authorities should protect.
Burning a Quran is a message of hate towards Muslims, that’s simply it.
Muslims in Sweden probably don’t love this move either.
Should Swedes also support demonstrations, where Muslim Swedes burn Bibles, Torahs, LGBTIQ+ flags etc, as long as they cite “freedom of speech” and or wanting to do a “social experiment” as their primary motivation?
Burning books associated exclusively with certain ethnic groups is obviously Nazi behaviour.
It has happened in the past with the Jews. History is just repeating itself. Terrorists and Nazis are the same shit.
Labeling the Quran burning as a “social experiment” does not make it better. The people involved are not tolerant humanists, who work towards a better future. They simply want to spread their hate.
Don’t bow your head to terrorists. But also don’t bow your head to Nazis.
Many Muslims don’t give a shit. Provoking poor uneducated people from war-torn countries unsuprisingly does not give you cozy wholesome responses.
It is naive to believe that a Quran burning is simply a “social experiment”. People who passionately support the book burning are obviously hating Muslims passionately as well.
The Quran does not have to be important to you personally, but burning it has no good intentions towards Muslim populations inside and outside Sweden.
Swedish authorities were informed about the planned Quran burning and actively allowed it. Allowing the Quran burning is imo more extreme and political, than not allowing it.
People protest a lot of stuff in Iraq. Just nobody cares about what the Iraqi public thinks.
After the removal of the Iraqi government and army in the Iraq war, Iraq has essentially become a failed state run by Iranian mafias and tribal militias. There is literally nothing useful to do in Iraq.
Doesn’t Sweden have anti-discrimination/anti-Nazi laws or something like that? Why is a demonstration like that legal?
Burning a Quran shouldn’t be a part of a peaceful protest and has nothing to do with Sweden being blocked from joining NATO by Turkey.
Don’t you need to google the exact package name anyways?
Is she really a bigot? To me she just appears to be someone who can not seperate porn from other aspects of her life. Does she really hate all these groups of people even outside this “Mother” persona?
I would assume that this is just some kind of femdom rp channel or something. The whole Mother thing is not that weird from that context. There are many different online Goddesses and Mothers, that get really popular and find success under these fetishized personas.
It is just weird tho, to combine her DRM cracker online presence with her fetish persona.
Edit: Nevermind, it seems the Mother thing is not a persona, but something she genuinely believes in or at least she protrays it as such. The more I read about her, the more I get the impression that she is some kind of Terry Davis type unhinged computer genius.
maybe some fetish rp channel? i dunno
Bro your point doesn’t make sense.
Praying in public is a threat to nobody.
Burning holy books or symbols of ethnic or religious minorities is a potential attempt to cultivate hate among the masses.
Just look at this comment section, people here pretend that this burning is a proof of every Islamophobic talking point that they have ever read about in some schizo Youtube comments.
Free speech stops when it has the potential to severly restrict the freedom of other people’s lifes imo. This applies more or less to pretty much every Western country.
One could argue whether or not this is the case here, but having the police escort and protect the madmen while they burn the Quran, is just beyond free speech under any definition.