I’m so fucking tired of all of this, they literally attempted to hit Kremlin with drone before a week and Russia still didn’t curb stomp them for some reason. Hundreds are dying in Donbas still, this has been going on since 2014, Donbas is still not free, soldiers are dying, I don’t even know at this point. What’s the problem in just evaporating Kiev, clown and his neo nazi regime and be done with it? I don’t even know how their army is still functionally operating after all the weapons and infrastructure destroyed and crippled, hundreds of thousands of soldiers killed and hundreds dying daily.

Hordes of nazis on the internet and news don’t show signs of stopping of talking about Ukraine 24/7 even after more than a year of this madness.

I literally can’t take it anymore, when will this end?

  • @NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml
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    On the last live stream of New Atlas, Mark Sleboda claimed this would become an endless war. Man I hope he’s wrong, because this shit going for another 10 years would be a disaster. Just annex Ukraine and end this madness.

    • @darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml
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      One of the west’s potential win scenarios I saw a lot of people mentioning early on (and I agreed) was creating an eternal quagmire on Russia’s border that either burns as a conflict draining resources and becoming ever more unpopular over the years with the Russian people (government destabilization, chance for color revolution) or at least intermittently flares up plus lots of terrorist attacks into Russia itself that never go away.

      Russia can afford to drain NATO for a while longer but in the long-run the war continuing benefits NATO and only NATO and is a serious drain and threat to Russia. They need to wrap this up in the short-term (around another year) not the medium term (another ~5 years(+/-2)).

      The thing is, Russia may fear any escalation on their part will invite a seething, sitting on the edge, glaring and chomping at the bit west to jump in against them, to escalate dramatically, for Poland to march in, for them to pull a provocation and send in NATO troops en mass which of course is calling Russia’s bluff and what can they do then but use nuclear weapons? NATO responds in kind and whoever blinks first in the nuclear escalation loses (e.g. if Russia doesn’t escalate to nuking secondary choice military targets after a few first choice military targets are hit on both sides in an exchange NATO takes this as weakness and presses the attack to push them out of Ukraine entirely, cut off and annex Crimea back and begin building their terrorism factory in Ukraine back up again).

      People talk about them needing/wanting to pivot to Taiwan and yeah maybe that’s waiting in the wings but even two years I worry what can happen in that time. Nuclear war is ever a risk as the west’s back is up against a wall and they know it. A certain faction of the bourgeoisie (the defense industry kind who are also the ones spewing all the China atrocity lies) is determined to not die lying down, to perhaps even take the world with them if it comes down to it. Because unlike international finance or tech, the bourgeoisie who benefit most from direct imperialism, it’s profits and its war machine will suffer greatly should the dollar hegemony collapse, should the ability of the US to wage war abroad collapse, should the US’s image collapse. Russia and China will replace them in selling weapons, without wars to justify buying lots domestically and with other puppet countries slowly drawn out of their sphere this group of the bourgeoisie who have particular control of the levers of US state apparatus and their ears unfortunately are in a very dire place looking towards the future and the next 10-20 years.