• ugo
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    4 days ago

    Was it western hegemonic interests that started an invasion of Ukraine? I seem to recall it was Russia.

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        3 days ago

        Nato is a defensive alliance, not an offensive one. The only way it could be perceived as a “threat” by Russia is id Russia had intention of expanding in that direction.

        And what happened to the self-determination of countries, if countries like, say, Sweden and Finland want to join NATO as additional defence against a militaristic expansionist Russia, that is absolutely their right.

        But since you are not debating in good faith, I’m not gonna spend more words and effort on this.

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          3 days ago

          NATO is objectively an offensive alliance that has invaded numerous countries. But since you are not debating in good faith, I’m not gonna spend more words and effort on this.

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              2 days ago

              Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, just to name a few. How can anybody be such an utter ignoramus is truly astounding.

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                Operations on terrorist organizations. Geography was not taken from any of those countries. I was against the Iraq war and I think many Americans were, I wouldn’t try to defend it.

                Now how is Putin invading Ukraine to expand Russia’s territory similar to those?

                You Russian shills love to call everyone idiots because no one understands global conflict like you do, but do you really?

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                  1 day ago

                  These were violent invasions of sovereign countries. Period. Thanks for confirming that you’re just a troll without any intellectual integrity.

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        3 days ago

        I know I’m wrong? Notice you replied on my first and, at the time, only message in the whole thread. And my statement is the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine.

        So no, I don’t know I’m wrong. In fact I know I’m right.

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          3 days ago

          Another example of deliberate bad faith: lying about what you said

          You could have edited your previous comment to make it appear you were telling the truth but you’re stupid and lazy apparently

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            3 days ago

            Maybe try debating people when you learn to form coherent thoughts. What I said is “Russia invaded Ukraine”, there is no bad faith or lying about it. It is an objective fact.

            It does indeed seem that someone is stupid and lazy between the two of us, try looking in a mirror and you’ll find them.

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              3 days ago

              Why are you using quotation marks around something that isn’t a quote? You said something completely different.

              “No U” all you want, dummy. You’re being evasive for a reason.

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                Does it trigger you that I am saying that Russia invaded Ukraine? You seem to be quite tilted about it. Maybe learn the meaning of words before using them, I am being the opposite of evasive. You said I am wrong, and I said I have nothing to be wrong about because I did not provide opinions, only a single fact: Russia invaded Ukraine.

                Goodbye

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                  2 days ago

                  Go read your original comment, you petulant child.

                  Your statement there is objectively different than “Russia invaded The Ukraine”