• AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Lol listen to yourself.

    “If we don’t actively help Israel to commit genocide, someone else will, so we should accept it and vote for it.”

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      3 months ago

      See my other comments. The US isn’t the only country making weapons. Fuck, not even the closest that Israel would get them from.

      Next.

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        3 months ago

        You have no counter-arguments to “Democratic administration is aiding and abetting genocide” except “it’s OK because…”

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          3 months ago

          No, and again, read my other comments.

          Alliances with other nations aren’t just shit you throw around. You go against another nation, it creates a historical precedent for them to NOT work with your interests.

          You’re talking like “The Democrats” are in charge of the government. If your third grade civics is not up to date, I can just inform you that because a Democrat is the President, he doesn’t command the absolute government and decisions of said government.

          “The Democrats” occupy the White House, and unless you want them to go absolutely fucking nuts and be all Trump about shit, they are at the behest of Congress.

          You’re still not even realizing that the UNITED STATES is not attacking Gaza. Get with the fucking program.

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            3 months ago

            The Democrats ARE in charge of foreign policies as they control the executive branch.

            I didn’t say burn the alliance with Israel, but I did say threaten or commit to an “arms embargo” in order to get a ceasefire.

            And if bailing on an alliance is not such a hard line to cross then, by your logic, Israel won’t seek arms from China or Russia

            As long as the US is sending weapons to Israel, it is complicit in attacking Gaza.

            Look at the mental gymnastics you have to resort to in order to feel OK about the killing of children 🤮

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                3 months ago

                New legislation is not needed. The president can halt arms exports. Congress has oversight but little decision-making power

                So, while Congress provides funding and oversight of executive branch decisions, by its own hand it usually has very little power over what military aid recipients actually get.

                https://thedispatch.com/article/the-president-congress-and-arms-transfers-explained/

                And guess what? The Jewish Institute for National Security of America says that US arms transfers have been “critical” to the genocide of Gazans:

                https://jinsa.org/jinsa_report/infographic-u-s-arms-transfers-to-israel-since-october-7/

                Look, it’s OK if you have a different opinion than me. Just admit that you are totally fine with killing kids in Gaza and this conversation can be over. We both know that’s how you actually feel about it: Team Blue needs a win and so Gazan children and human rights are totally acceptable until November.

                Then, after November, it will be unacceptable to criticize the new Team Blue administration because “they inherited this mess”

                That’s always how this goes: You’ll vote for baby killers every time they wear the Blue jersey

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                  3 months ago

                  You must not be aware of how things work in this country, so you must not be from here.

                  Unilateral Powers are not granted to the president here. Must different where you’re from.

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                    3 months ago

                    OK I posted links with actual quotes and evidence. Your response is directly contradictory but with no evidence. Indeed, there apparently was a pause in arms exports, initiated by Biden, so he certainly has the power.

                    Again, you are so eager to wave away child killing but you will say anything to move the conversation away from it.

                    Just admit that you think dead Gazan children are acceptable collateral damage for a Team Blue victory.