• just_another_person@lemmy.world
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        The UN already introduced sanctions against Israel for their actions, has them listed as a “bad actor”, and refers to this war as a genocide. Do you see them on the ground?

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        Edit: BERLIN STYLE “AIR LIFT STYLE EFFORT”? You know these people want to keep their homes and teritory, right? WITAF are you even going on about?

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          type this into google: “korean war”

          also, absolutely delicious that you just ignored the other two bullet points

          you aren’t very good at this

          edit for the edit:

          i don’t think you know what the berlin airlift was

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            I’m familiar with it, and your other bullet points still boil down into the same issue, which is that the US doesn’t control any of this territory, and the US is not on the ground here.

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              the US doesn’t control any of this territory, and the US is not on the ground here.

              and they could if they wanted to

              i think you forgot the question you were asking?

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          yes i am sure russia, china or europe, the rest of the world’s leading arms manufacturers, will willingly sell arms to a us ally that the us has refused to sell arms to

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            If you are unfamiliar with the world, and you think that Istaetonly has one arms dealing ally. Wow.

            Let me just let you know that EVERY country in the EU develops munitions, and they are much closer than the US. You prob even think the US is the sole supplier of munitions for Israel, and you would be wrong. Britain makes some of the best armaments on the planet. Italy makes the best lethal small-arms, France makes some of the best sidearms, and Germany makes the best “smart bombs” around.

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              All the better reason for the US to stop giving them weapons. If this is the case, Israel isn’t the staunch ally you claimed above, and the relationship needs re-assessment

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          Lol listen to yourself.

          “If we don’t actively help Israel to commit genocide, someone else will, so we should accept it and vote for it.”

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            See my other comments. The US isn’t the only country making weapons. Fuck, not even the closest that Israel would get them from.

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              You have no counter-arguments to “Democratic administration is aiding and abetting genocide” except “it’s OK because…”

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                No, and again, read my other comments.

                Alliances with other nations aren’t just shit you throw around. You go against another nation, it creates a historical precedent for them to NOT work with your interests.

                You’re talking like “The Democrats” are in charge of the government. If your third grade civics is not up to date, I can just inform you that because a Democrat is the President, he doesn’t command the absolute government and decisions of said government.

                “The Democrats” occupy the White House, and unless you want them to go absolutely fucking nuts and be all Trump about shit, they are at the behest of Congress.

                You’re still not even realizing that the UNITED STATES is not attacking Gaza. Get with the fucking program.

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                  The Democrats ARE in charge of foreign policies as they control the executive branch.

                  I didn’t say burn the alliance with Israel, but I did say threaten or commit to an “arms embargo” in order to get a ceasefire.

                  And if bailing on an alliance is not such a hard line to cross then, by your logic, Israel won’t seek arms from China or Russia

                  As long as the US is sending weapons to Israel, it is complicit in attacking Gaza.

                  Look at the mental gymnastics you have to resort to in order to feel OK about the killing of children 🤮