• TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      11 months ago

      Hey, coward, explain how you can simultaneously believe that the Donbas is independent and that when Russian troops entered their territory at their request that constituted an invasion.

      Explain or admit that you don’t consistently believe in self determination.

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        11 months ago

        When did I say I’m against Russian troops entering Donbas territory? I made it very clear I’m against Russian troops entering anywhere BUT Donbas. Love how you guys claim to be anti-war until the millisecond a non-western nation is the one committing war crime atrocities and mass murdering civilians.

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          11 months ago

          Honestly I wouldn’t even much of a problem if they just invaded Donbas

          How could they possibly invade the Donbas at all when they were invited?

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            11 months ago

            Semantics. I didn’t mean “invade,” that was just the word that came in my head. You know damn well what I meant.

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                11 months ago

                You’re just gonna ignore the fact I said and have been saying I supported it huh? Fucking Russia lovers with no understanding of nuance

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                    11 months ago

                    Would you support America invading and drone striking the Middle East because separatists in a single province were being oppressed by their native government and wanted US help? How is this any different? Would you support Kazakhstan invading all of China for oppressing Uyghurs in Xinjiang who wanted to break away (which I know you love to deny but is very much a reality even if exaggerated by MSM)?

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                  11 months ago

                  If I said that I supported people’s rights to sell marijuana and I didn’t even think they should get much jail time for it, people would rightly point out that I was lying about my support.

                  You stated that you supported self determination for people in the Donbas, and I didn’t ignore it at all, I’m saying that even within the same post you proved that you actually didn’t when you referred to their allies entering their territory as an invasion.

                  Again, I’m not ignoring anything, I just think you’re a liar and that you only started pretending to support the Donbas’s self determination because doing otherwise would undermine the point you were trying to make about Taiwan.

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                    11 months ago

                    Ok keep trying to read between the lines and make presumptions about what I believe… typical dishonest liberal

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            11 months ago

            Right, and the sky is green too.

            Adding the word “socialist” in front of “market economy” doesn’t make it any less capitalist. I’m done with this.

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              11 months ago

              nuh uh because it means that the CPC has final say over shit with regards to the economy and governance instead of just leaving things up to the market like a true capitalist country

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                  11 months ago

                  State capitalism is when you execute billionaires and enact compulsory planning for key parts of the nation’s development such as health and infrastructure.

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                    11 months ago

                    No but state capitalism is when the majority of billionaires are allowed to exist in the first place dumbass. Tight regulations don’t make you socialist. And putting money into health and infrastructure is possible under capitalism LMFAO

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                  11 months ago

                  Cool then let’s have the CPC run the USA, I’m sure you’re okay with that since China is actually capitalist, right? It should totally be the same here if the CPC takes control, right? Right?