Which is just more-left liberalism (to the socdems part). They still believe in capitalism.

I will concede, however, that perhaps my own bias slipped in because I consider socdems to be “the ideal liberal”. But of course that’s my own personal belief and doesn’t define the entire spectrum.

I think the issue we often find is most people (in the first world anyway, voices I hear all the time) are liberals. They believe firmly in capitalism and most of them believe in some social safety nets- the dispute is how much and what type of nets. Never a dispute of support of capitalism though. Even amongst the people like Bernie or whatever