• Zoidberg@lemm.ee
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    What a silly post…

    First, where are you going to find a 8% treasury bond? Even a few months ago, when they were giving record yields, it didn’t even get close to that.

    Second, if you borrow $3m with high interest rates (needed to get high yield treasurys) you’ll also pay a high rate on your loan. Duh.

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    So I know this is satire but I wouldn’t buy a us bond. I would much rather buy one from a stable country.

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    Sweet, I just need a small, interest-free loan of 3 million dollars and I’ll pay you back $10,000 a month for 300 months. Don’t believe me? Here, check out my credit report.

    Credit report: trust me bro

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    A treasury bond delivering 8% is probably one from a dangerous country to invest in.

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    I just walk to the 7/11 and buy a scratcher. I never win anything but I could make at least $100,000 in just one day!

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      I know you’re joking, but I used to work at a convenience store and the scratcher addicts were the most depressing part. I guess I should be grateful that the store I worked at wasn’t in an area where more depressing kinds of addicts would be around.

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        Dude it was depressing stopping off at the beer store on the way home from work for a 6pack so I could kick it and relax on the couch…

        …and there’s be a group of blue collars going there to cash their weekly paychecks, buy a couple 40s and $50 worth of scratchers. They’d win $10, and buy $10 more worth of scratchers. Theys win a TICKET, get another and win nothing, then complain that they were “so close” to winning 10-grand.

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          Work at a rutters. had multiple guys who were serious come in with like 20 $1 and 5 $20 every other day. We had one guy who’d buy $100-$200 every visit (up to 3 times a day). Must’ve been in his 50s but he said his wife didn’t know. Scratch offs scare me now I’ve only ever seen one $1500 win but I’d only work part time so.

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              As far as I know, I would get told he already visited by people in 1st shift and he’d come in like 6 and spent $100-$200 then come back an hour later

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        I remember one day walking into a 7/11, in maybe 2002, and there were 2 guys in suits, totally dishevelled, collars undone, looking like they’ve been awake for 3 days, depression coating their faces, and they had a stack of scratch tickets that they were silently just scratching off.

        The story I have in my head is that their business fell apart and this was some past ditch desperate attempt to save it with the little money they had left. I have no idea what actually happened but here we are 20+ years later and I still think about them occasionally.

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          The one thing that going to a real casino taught me is that, despite what Hollywood would have us believe, casinos are not full of impeccably dressed classy people, but very old retirees that look like they only have a few years left to live, and disheveled men who look less well dressed than me in my PJs at home, who are gambling away large sums of money in a fit of anxiety and addiction.

          Really depressing crap.

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          The guy who started FedEx literally put his company’s payroll on a roulette table just to make enough to stay in business.

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        I know of a few small stores that owe their livelihoods to the local gambling addicts and the lottery machine. The entire business if dedicated to a few whales since selling snacks and coffee to randos didn’t work out and they would otherwise close. They even set up private rooms where they could sped the day scratching tickets as they would come in and blow and entire pay/welfare/retirement check.

        The logic is always the same, “I’m up $500 today” not even calculating the losses and “I just need one big win”. People will farm gamblers like cattle.

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          A similar establishment by me also diversified into bongs. A wall of bongs, a wall of lottery, a wall of smokes, a locked case full of smaller smoke accessories, half a wall of cooler, and three tiny islands of “food.” It’s very bright and clean but also sad as fuck.

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          That’s really sad. It’s the equivalent of putting lab rats in a cage with a cocaine/amphetamine button.

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            Perfectly legal since the state owned the equipment being used to ruin lives.

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      I never understood the appeal of scratch offs, 100k? If you gotta dream, dream big, play the lottery

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        I won like $250 on the first scratch off I got with my boyfriend. Broke my reality, I want to try it one more time to see if we’d win anything but I gotta stay safe

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        The keno addicts at the bar i work at are wild. They just keep silently putting in money and watching the drawings. I prefer that to the ones who try to explain their strategies to me or complain that some number appears in every drawing. Or the guy who came in Wednesday night and kept betting $10 that the first pitch of every at bat of the Mets/Brewers game was gonna be a strike. It’s bleak.

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        I remember hearing a story like twenty years ago about a person that figured out that serial number were disclosing payouts. They would buy a bunch, find the winners, scratch them, then return the losers for their money back. I think I heard about it on a planet money or this American life ages and ages ago.

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          Who in their right mind is accepting returns of lottery tickets, scratched or not???

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            Store clerks who just want to get through their shift without committing battery upon their customers and are definitely not paid enough to deal with that shit.

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              I just quit after calling the police. Dude said they were too hard to scratch off and wanted his money back. Was dressed to the nines (as was his date), in a seedy movie rental store, trying to return lottery tickets by amicably dropping threats of coming behind the register.

              I sure hope his date was impressed. Nobody else was.

              Edit: also, this was about 20 years ago, so may very well have been a scam attempt.

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              Not paid enough to say “no refunds” but given the ability to authorize giving out money for unofficial reasons? If it’s unauthorized, then they’re essentially stealing cash and assuming an extremely high risk of getting fired to avoid confrontation.

              I’ve never worked a gas station, but I’ve worked fast food and I would have been fired soooo fast if I were giving out unauthorized refunds. Maybe even prosecuted if the amount was large enough. I’ve seen people fired for less.

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      It’s like those educational explanations of compound interest I remember from childhood that tried to encourage you to save money. They would always start with 1 dollar and a savings account with 20% interest, and end up retiring as a millionaire.

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        I remember getting really frustrated as a young man when I decided to take that advice, and wasted hours looking for these mythical 18% return accounts.

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          Yep those 10 percent accounts got me laughed out of the bank. One banker did helpfully ask how much I made though. Actually that was what set off the laughing. At any rate that was the year I learned rice stretches any food. No relation I’m sure.

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            In college I was frequently hungry without any food. One of my friends said “buy a 20 pound bag of rice and you’ll never go hungry again”, and he was right. Idk how I forgot that, considering I was raised on beans, rice, and government cheese. I just needed someone to connect the dots for me.

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          Three million is the joke, 8% is the hint that it’s a joke. It’s the same sort of satire that Lemmy frequently reposts. “I became wealthy with hard work, determination, and a small loan of a million dollars.”

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          Well, both of us are socialists (I can’t comment on the other person). We think about money in such a different way that any money joke about investment is going to lose it’s humor. I don’t understand it as a joke either, but I definitely understood the financial advice. He selected some large, relatively uncontroversial companies that will pay you part of the quarterly profits based on the number of stocks you own. Tbh I’d avoid the day trading and choose high dividend ETFs instead. $100k is still very out of reach for most people, but it’s a reasonable investing portfolio.

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            I get conflicting information about high dividend ETFs. Some people swear by them, others say they’re terrible or at least should be avoided. I’m too ignorant to know why either way :/

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              Many people in The US who are trying to save for retirement attempt to have fewer dividends since that becomes taxable income. They would prefer just a higher stock value and pay the taxes later when presumably they are retired and in a lower tax bracket. That premise is probably good but you never know how the government is going to change up tax rates in the future.

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              By the nature of ETFs, you’re definitely going to make less income because your money gets put into an investment pool and returns are proportional. However it makes you less tied to the stock market, which is increasingly tied to a person’s ability to retire

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                Those are my main investments outside of my 401k from work, I was just curious about the high dividend ones but someone else answered what is going on there. Thanks for the info!