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Abravnel’s pictures show two bearded men wearing sunglasses and three other men wearing face coverings on board the boat. One of the men on board appeared to be holding an image of Mike Lindell, CEO of the My Pillow company. Lindell, who is a well-known Trump supporter, recently hit back against claims that his product pricing was inadvertently linked to neo-Nazi propaganda.
How is it that Trump followers are pro Nazis and pro Israel at the same time? Or is it because Israel is starting to follow Nazis’ footsteps?
They only support Israel because they hate Muslims more.
And because the religious sect believes they need the Jews to bring Armageddon/the rapture.
Conservatives aren’t actually Christian, you realize? It’s all virtue signaling to disguise being vile snakes out to enrich themselves and their families, while actively fucking over the rest of the country/world to get there.
Dont fall into the rhetoric, those arguments are a distraction.
Dumbasses missed the point of your post. You are absolutely right. Their religiosity is performative to mask the fact that they are just shit human beings.
It’s sad you’re being downvoted by “Reddit Atheist” types
Sorry, point taken. I definitely was directing my “Conservatives” comment specifically at conservatives in the government.
Obviously, my comment was. HUGE blanket generalization, which is never a great stance.
Those republicans use identity politics and religion to control the votes of evangelical/fundamentalist christians.
The xtian nationalists/zionists would declare they are the ONLY xtians. It’s not a distraction at all; their goofy bullshit about their chosen version of the various Abrahamic cults is something they absolutely believe in and it’s dragging down all of humanity.
Not all conservatives are the same. I know plenty of the staunchly religious type. Two things can be true at the same time.
You’re mistaken. While I would agree that most conservative politicians, pundits, and mouthpieces are con artists who don’t actually believe most of the religious bullshit they pander, the average conservative voter does trend significantly more religious. This is true practically everywhere in the world. Religion is the primary source of conservative beliefs and ideology.
“The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, but we’ll tolerate them while they kill the right people.”
Well in some cases that’s complicated. Dominionists will support anyone that either will bring in the end times or the destruction of Israel because that’s part of their end time beliefs. They also support anyone that claims to be Christian. Supporting Israel until it is destroyed is all part of their convoluted fantasy life.
It’s a place created as a home for jews pretty much by antisemites, with the main idea being “we’re okay with jews but only if they’re not in our country”.
There’s a lot of fascinating history about the creation of Israel by antisemites that you can find, but the gist is that zionism and antisemitism often go hand in hand, and it seems this has not really changed.
Some of it is rooted in xtian zionism, and it’s not because they have any special regard for Jews other than as pawns for their dopey eschatological notions. They just think the Jews have to be in Israel to fulfill prophecies that involve a magical Jewish carpenter coming back (and killing most of the Jews, by the way).
So at the end of the day it’s Dominionism amd The Book of Revalations. It’s the idea that once the Jews take control of the holy land the apocalyptic prophesies in the Book of Revelations will be set into motion and God will come down from heaven and separate the 144,000 good holy people from the sinners who didn’t belive in God and take them into heaven, probably rapture style.
Being Pro Israel and a conservative isn’t really about caring about the history of prejudice the Jewish people have faced throughout much of history, it’s about using the Jewish people as a pawn in fulfilling a ~2000 year old prophesy.
Yuuuup.
I find it equal parts infuriating and hilarious… These motherfuckers want to pull some “Jesus hates this one trick!” type shit to trick their lord into appearing sooner than would “naturally” happen and they don’t think the all knowing all powerful God wouldn’t realize they had millions of people killed purposely for this? Their meddling and enabling is what would have that region in the state of war “required” for Armageddon…
Like what?
I believe in their view, it’s presented as ‘god can’t come back until conditions are right, don’t keep him waiting’
The answer to why god needs their help when he’s all powerful is some mumbling about tests of faith and the unknowable nature of the divine
Also, killing millions in his name? Old testament God is probably fully erect watching it.
Fun fact: Kelsey Grammar (Frasier) is a proud Trump supporter and Christian who also publicly supported Roseanne Barr after she was fired from her show’s reboot for tweeting that one of Obama’s advisers was what happened when the “Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby”.
I’m encouraged that this is becoming more well known
Watch Praying for Armageddon; I’ve seen other docs that cover this as well, but this is a fairly recent one.
Nazis love the idea of a single state for each group of people. They love it as a destination for deportations fulfilling their short-term bigoted plans.
Of course their long-term bigoted plans are invasion, stealing resources, and mass murder.
They’re different subgroups
there is that, but I think also many republicans have a weird cognitive dissonance where they’re antisemitic in general, but still very pro-israel/zionist because of fundamental christianity, and/or they are even more islamaphobic than antisemitic.
I think that they are pro-Israel because they want all the American Jews to move there to rid them of “the problem” of American Jews. Think of them like national segregationists - they don’t mind Jewish people existing as long as they are “over there”. And it’s also in Israel’s interest to project themselves as the only place in the world where Jews can be safe.
They’re both far-right ideologically, and it turns out the idea of “never again” to Zionists means "Never again to us"
…and the best way they believe to make sure of this, is by genociding other peoples.
The actual mid-20th century German Nazis wanted to create an Israel, although they intended on it being in a different place. It was basically their way to “justify” deporting every Jew
It’s because Israel is a genocidal settler-colonial apartheid state set up by the European and North American powers to colonize the middle east.