The article contradicts the heck out of itself.
Says billboard estimates she earns roughly $4k a day from Spotify streams. Then they speculate she makes roughly 8k a month from OnlyFans.
That would be like $120k a month from Spotify and $8k a month from OnlyFans.
That is FAR from more money from OnlyFans. Even if those numbers are hugely off I don’t see how the discrepancy would be THAT large.
That also happens to be exactly the kind of math error AI is notorious for making. I bet the article was written by AI and likely not even proofread by a human.
Or it wasn’t making any kind of claim and just posting what the celebrity claimed and providing estimated revenue from both service based on what she claimed. Why are you falsely blaming this on AI for no reason?
But 8 > 4??? /s
The article didn’t contradict itself since it did not make the claim that she made more money from Only Fans, the celebrity did. They just posted the estimated revenue from both services which doesn’t match up with what she said. The only conclusions we can come up with is either their estimation is completely off or she was exaggerating her example.
I wonder how much her record label makes from her music on Spotify…
Industry average is 2/3 goes to the label 1/3 goes to the artist.
Hmm, so we may have a culprit in the case of the missing money.
And although I like Lily, she’s not really done a lot of music recently, and was never really that big outside the UK.
Spotify itself takes an even bigger cut
I wouldn’t really call it “missing” while it seems kinda shocking at first that labels take that much of a cut, people don’t really realise just how many people are involved in music production. From marketing to designers to video editors, social media teams, managers that get them interviews and talk shows and spots at festivals etc. And then all the overhead that comes with those jobs, so finance, HR, IT and facilities etc.
So 1/3 is actually pretty decent and a much bigger cut of the profits than most people get from their labour.
Spotify is a fucking racket
My dumbass didn’t think “damn Spotify doesn’t pay artists”
Instead I immediately thought “damn more people are paying for their onlyfans than listening to their music”
feet just dont do it for me
It has to have a person attached.
no kiddin.
Perhaps this just means people value her feet more than music? I’m not into feet, but I really didn’t like her music, so maybe this is reasonable.
Not really. It just means onlyfans pays more than Spotify… which seems obvious to me??? A direct subscription to an artist vs only a few cents per play… yeah, no brainer, the artist is going to make less money in the latter deal.
The article is just garbage, it says it’s estimated she makes 4k a day with Spotify and 8k a month with OF
The article didn’t claim she made more money on OnlyFans than on Spotify, Lily Allen did. They just then provided the estimated revenue from both services using the numbers claimed by her. It could be that they used the wrong estimation for one or both of the revenues, but what’s more likely is that Lily Allen exaggerated her example.
I’m not a huge Lily Allen fan, but her first album was incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfvOEn3GAo0&list=PLI6kLIhBBwmT_XV_24qMWetSE3tX_gvIF
Who?
Theon Greyjoy’s sister
who’s sister?
whose
Reek
(played by Alfie Allen)
Lily’s song Alfie is about him.
Is it weird that I used to think the reverse? Alfie was Lily’s brother, and a nepo baby. I be damned if he didn’t earn it though. Also, my first thought was the woman who played “Asha” was not Lily Allen.
That one dan bull sang about
I have very a pair beautiful feet, with a strong arch. All toes included. Offers in PM.
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This would mean something if anyone knew who she was as an artist
People know Weird Al’s an artist, and he used his Spotify Wrapped video last year to make a very public statement about how much money Spotify steals from artists: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/weird-al-yankovic-spotify-wrapped-video-criticism-1234905887/
That’s wild, I guess she was only popular in Europe? She had a bunch of big hits around 2010, like “Fuck You” which was about George Bush
I’m American and I knew about her. Smile was at least a modest hit.
I said above that the album that was on, Alright, Still, is a really good album.
Edit: from Wikipedia-
Alright, Still debuted at number 20 on the Billboard 200 in the United States, with first-week sales of 34,000 copies.[51] The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) awarded the album a gold certification on 6 December 2007,[52] and by November 2013, it had sold 627,000 copies in the US.
That’s a bit less than half of UK sales, which is pretty good for a British artist in the U.S.
Would it? Another way to word this might be “Platform with 8,000,000 monthly streamers/listeners pays less than platform of 1,000 subscribers to view pictures.”
I don’t think this individual’s identity enters into it at all. That sentiment comes across as a deliberate, mean-spirited attempt to denigrate this person.
Whether or not selling pictures of one’s anatomy is a viable career, or a morally questionable career, or any questions along these lines are a separate discussion. This article to me points out the drastic discrepancy in two services, yet again calling attention to the issue of artists and their earnings when utilizing Spotify as a distribution platform.
Another way to word this might be “Platform with 8,000,000 monthly streamers/listeners pays less than platform of 1,000 subscribers to view pictures.”
Think about it for a minute and it becomes pretty clear that shouldn’t be surprising at all
You subscribe directly to someone on Onlyfans, you subscribe to Spotify as a whole and your listening habits help split the bill. If both are ~10 bucks a month of course one is going to make you more money than the other
Especially if they’re a lesser known artist. Even if they’re getting listened to, if the same people listen to 3x as much swift or whatever that will impact the lesser known persons earnings
This article is a dog shit way to bring attention to Spotifys issues, simple as
I’m haven’t searched yet but I don’t know who this is.
Cultural fragmentation is definitely a big thing when it comes to music these days
Damn, spotify truly is a scourge to artists.
Yep, spotify pays a fraction of what napster, tidal, and apple music pay while raking in record profits each year.
napster
what
Yep, it is a legal streaming service now.
The entire music industry is built to grift money from musicians and Spotify is a second layer of musician grifting industry built on the first.
You know what, you’ve convinced. Your specific suggestion of ‘guillotine’ was particularly compelling.
Owned by Sony
Sony, Universal, and Warner. The three parasitic conglomerates that own the rights to almost all popular music between them.
Some years ago, an artist who was not a mega-star but was on all the major music services published an article detailing how well each one paid. I’m now kicking myself for not bookmarking it. I clearly remember Spotify being among the worst, if not the worst.
The musician I saw last week mentioned that he’ll get more money if you buy a CD from him now than if you stream his catalog on spotify for the rest of your life.
Snoop Dogg said he got 45k for a billion streams.
Fractions of a penny.
I don’t remember the artist’s name. I’m pretty sure the article was a text post, probably a blog. Not a youtube video.
Holy shit. I have feet. Does anyone want pictures of a guy’s feet? They’re big and weirdly shaped.
I’m positive there is an audience for men’s feet, but if you aren’t 5 stars on wikifeet, you’ll probably have to market yourself. Study the foot fetish community to find out what the dude foot fan needs more of. Etc.
5 stars on wikifeet
Something about this part of your post made me giggle.
Is there any way I can do this without finding out any more about this fetish?
Hmmm…the problem is, even if you just post pictures at random, you’re going to find out unwanted info based on what pics bring in money. Sounds like you’d need a manager!
You can even call me a foot doctor, because I help rappers with defeat.
I wear a men’s 14. Basically the DD’s of feet. My wife says I’m not allowed to show them off for free so get our your wallets folks.
I’m a big feet man and damn is it annoying when I go to a rollerskating or ice skating rink and the largest size they rent is 13 :(
You feel my pain. Literally! Last time I had to cram my feet into size 13 ice skates it sucked some of the fun out of it.
What’s up fellow size 14s!
I often joke that I’m the person happiest that malls have died off because as a kid I was always forced to go there and try on a a bunch of 12s and 13s that never fit.
These days I’m still upset that so many good looking shoes only go up to 13
I’ve got a toe shaped like an alien. Maybe that’s worth something!
I have a small bag of nickels. Tell you what, I’ll even throw in a rubber ducky.
Me too, the one next to my big toe… On both feet.
I think the estimated by billboard is fucked up but yeah the article seems completely broken
I’m a girl, in a healthy BMI and with nice hair, pretty and freckled face, but my feet are super crappy. Like, crusty, toes bend at weird angles, hard skin in random places. Even my own husband is like “plz no, stop” if they get too near to him.
I’m now wondering if there’s a market on the other end of the scale…
Due to the people being people, who knows who has what kinks. I suppose there is only one way to find out.
And no, I’m not into feet myself.
Maybe, but do you really want someone jerking off to video of your super crappy feet?
I’m indifferent, especially if I get money to distract me from it.
There is. There’s a fetish for everything. Certainly when it involves your feet, I’d ask your husband if he’d be ok with some internet strangers paying you every month to see your feet, the worst is he says no, and on the other hand if he says yes you have a second source of easy income
He’d probably have empathy pains for any future subscribers.
I used to know a dude that would have gotten hard at your written description here. No bullshit. Dude was obsessed with feet, and what he called “real feet” were his particular favorite. Feet that had seen some life, had been used was one of the few things he would talk about. Literally obsessive about feet.
I guarantee he is not the only one. The only question is if there’s enough like that to make any useful money out of a feet only business.
There’s something about foot fetishists that’s extra obsessive compared to any other fetishists I’ve run across over the years.
I wonder how onlyfans pay model works. If they take a percentage and you don’t need to put any initial funds down to start then you’ll basically have nothing to lose.
See, I can kinda get it for some elegant and well kept ones and I’d definitely down for some foot play in such cases. But I don’t know if that would even classify as a foot fetish when I constantly hear about how bad people have it for the (pardon) “ugly” and unkempt ones, which I just find weird.
But yeah… I mean, there’s like 8 billion people on this planet. There’s always some niche where one fits into that would get someone off and could be capitalized if they’d be willing to do so. Just keep in mind that you’re, in the end, still selling your body for sex in a way.
To be honest, I’d rather sell my body for sex instead of selling my body to backbreaking warehouse work
It is my firm belief that, given a proper pitch, ANYTHING can be sold at a profit.
Also, there’s rule 34: If a thing exists, it’s someones fetish.
If it exists there is porn of it… Not sure where you got that other version from
You can probably extrapolate from “if it exists, there is porn of it (no exceptions)”.
If there is porn of something, the most likely reason is that someone has a fetish for it.
If the person making the porn doesn’t have a fetish for said thing, then they’re making it for an existing market of people.
QED, you can say “if it exists, someone has a fetish for it”
P.S: What if there isn’t porn of something? Rule 35 states that if it doesn’t exist, it will be made.
Just because you can extrapolate something from it, doesn’t mean you can change the words in the rule. They got the rule wrong, simple as that.
You have fundamentally misunderstood millennial meme culture ca. 2006 (roughly when the rules were made).
No one having a fetish for it would be extremely motivating to create such porn. People realized after it was made that they had a fetish for it. See: Shrek.
So technically you can still say “if it exists, someone has a fetish for it” but you’ve relied on correlation to determine causation and gotten it backwards. This is a great example of why we don’t do that.
Post pictures of them on Onlyfans.
Add the caption “Listen up, degenerates. I’ll only warn you once. I will release a new photo, closer than the previous, every hour, on the hour, until my subscriber goal is met.”
Some people just don’t like feet / being near them etc. Had girlfriends who would freak out if we somehow touched feet (even with socks on).
