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NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said on Monday, the 4th of November, during a visit to the German capital where he met with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, that Russia is carrying out hybrid attacks against other countries as part of its all-out war against Ukraine.

“Russia is carrying out … an intensified campaign of hybrid attacks in the territories of our allies, directly interfering in our democracies, sabotaging industry and committing acts of violence,” Rutte said.

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Calling the deployment of North Korean troops by Moscow a “major escalation”, Rutte said China and Iran also supported Moscow, but added that the NATO alliance was cooperating with countries in the Asia-Pacific region, including South Korea and Japan.

  • Foni@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    Well, you’ll see what happens with Trump in the White House. NATO as a collective defense organization is on the verge of failure. Europe has the obligation, if it wants to survive as an independent power, to replace it with its own army, it is an unavoidable imperative.

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      7 days ago

      The easiest way is to co-opt NATO by ignoring and replacing the US as much as possible. Recreating all the NATO structures and deals with the UK and Canada is something that could be done in a fair weather environment, with a war on our doorstep that’s not realistic.

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        7 days ago

        I’m sorry but I think the UK and Canada should not be in that union. Being allies ok, being part of a military union not so much. The European Union must be a strong enough actor and to do so it must have its own aircraft carriers if you understand what I mean.

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          7 days ago

          I live in Canada and in the event of US autocratic regime, we are in danger. I would like it if the European Union had our back against (say) incursions from former US border states, but I get that they would have their own problems to deal with.

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            7 days ago

            Don’t get me wrong, Canada, the UK and others are, and in my opinion should remain, close allies with 100% mutual defense. But for the European Union I would like a fully integrated common army, even more than the current NATO and that would not make sense without at least a partial political union, something that the EU already has and that neither Canada nor the UK want

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              7 days ago

              That’s a different matter though. The above comment was about co-opting NATO if the US lost interest in it.

              That doesn’t go against the EU working towards forming a joint military.

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                7 days ago

                As long as NATO exists, the EU will never have a united army.

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                  6 days ago

                  Tbh, I don’t really see how? What about NATO prevents it?

                  And what about the countries of Europe that are in NATO (or have expressed a desire to join) but not the EU?

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    6 days ago

    Maybe Trump could go to Russia and talk to putin?

    I’ll write him a check for this. One way. Hopefully they have a nice long conversation. 20 years to life.