i can’t even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they’re not quiet now once they get called out

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    How did letting Trump win help to end genocide? In what way does having an administration that literally says Palestine shouldn’t exist and Israel should finish the job and kill all the Palestinians inprove the situation?

    When there’s a fire, something should be done about it, absolutely. But allowing Trump to wind the Presidency is adding gasoline, wind, and dynamite to the Palestinian fire while also unleashing firebombs on Iran and murdering the fire brigade in Ukraine.

    How do you reconcile allowing all this death with your principles?

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      Yes you should ask yourself and harris/dnc how letting trump win by campaigning on a genocide and shitty economy policies was a good idea.

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        How does being objectively better for Palestinians than Trump make the Dems the worse of the 2 options?

        And there were only 2 options. Full. Stop.

        Choosing not to participate is functionally no better than voting for the worst of the 2 candidates. By choosing not to vote, all you made things worse for the Palestinians.

        But hey, you get to feel superior. That self-satisfaction is worth a couple million lives, I guess.

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          Die hard, vote blue no matter who libs were warned for a year straight that their strategy of catering to the right and abandoning nearly all of the progressive policies from their platform would result in defeat. They were warned by leftists, they were warned by polling, and the Harris campaign was warned by their own internal advisors. Instead of listening to any of that, they ignored their advisors, said that polls were false, and told leftists to fuck themselves. They tried to gaslight people about their own material conditions, provided unflinching support for genocide, and paraded around with Liz Cheney. Then they lost, and now the country is going to get even worse because they lost.

          The hubris it takes to ignore all of these warnings is unfathomable, and the willingness to risk the good of the country all for more donor money is despicable. And yet here you are, like so many others, continuing to blame people who had miniscule power to change anything and repeatedly warned you about a very predictable outcome.

          But hey, you feel superior.

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            It’s entirely possible for both the Dems and you to be wrong. Yes, the Dems ran a bad campaign. But you also chose not to oppose Donald Trump. You don’t get a pass on tacit approval of escalating genocide, deportation of minorities, destructuon of Ukraine, war with Iran, oppression of trans and homosexuals, and the gutting of the w9rking class just because the not-fascist wasn’t progressive enough for you.

            Any blame for what comes next lies with you as much as anyone else who didn’t oppose Trump. Every child who is separated from their family will be partly because of you. Every time someone does of a preventable disease because the medication has been banned by Kennedy, you’ll be complicit in the death.

            I would hope it keeps you up at night, but your head is so far up your ass feeling superior you don’t give a fuck about the damage you’ve caused to the Palestinians you claim to be supporting that you don’teven know what you’ve done. You’ve uplifted the man who will authorize and celebrate the removal of Palestine from the map.

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        Yes. The Dems had a shitty, evil policy on Gaza. But the Republican policy is worse on Gaza and everything else.

        But you motherfuckers decided sending a message to the Dems was more important than Gaza or the rest of the world, and now we’re about to have vaccines and milk outlawed, Ukraine will be taken over by Russia, Concentration Camps will be set up for anyone with slightly brown skin, and more.

        Oh - and Israel will literally kill every Palestinian in Gaza will fully-erect support from Trump and his goons, some of whom are literally trying to bring about the end of the world by eliminating Palestine and returning the Temple to Israel, which is an important part of their Armageddon prophesies.

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          I propose an omni-genocide.

          Instead of killing one ethnic or religious groups, we kill ALL of them. Well, all but one.

          We will start by selecting a single ethnic group out of a hat. (And I promise it will be fair, truly random.) We select a single ethnicity out of a hat.

          Everyone else goes to the camps. We’re talking 95%+ of the human population here.

          Yes, the death toll will be horrific. But I assure you, it will be for the greater good. Think of how many people down the ages have been killed due to racial prejudice. Think of how many wars have been fought over ethnicity or race. We have a long and bloody history with racism, and this will continue in the future.

          However, you can’t have racism without racial diversity! So by killing everyone except one randomly selected ethic group, we will completely eliminate racism of all forms. Yes, we sacrifice 7+ billion people now, but in exchange, we eliminate all deaths from racism, from now until the end of time! We’re talking trillions, perhaps quadrillions of lives saved! All it will take is the sacrifice of a few billion.

          From a purely utilitarian perspective, you should support my omni-genocide.