• Pilferjinx@lemmy.world
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      14 hours ago

      It’s only a bad idea when the people who want to hurt you aren’t armed. Sadly, in America, that’s not the case.

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        14 hours ago

        Nope, time and again we see law enforcement doesn’t work that way for minorities. The same gun laws that protect the majority are used against those in minorities.

        Also gives cops an excuse to kill us. Which they often use.

        • ubergeek@lemmy.today
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          4 hours ago

          Those cops will kill you, armed or not. Less likely, if armed.

          For example, see: DFW John Brown Gun Club shutting down cops who were looking to de-home a house less camp, by being armed and present.

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          10 hours ago

          The kind of cop you are talking about is a coward. They are far less likely to harass protesters when they are open carrying.

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            A very american perspective, tbh. From soneone in a country where you’re not allowed to carry a gun around as a random idiot, it’s so wild to read.

            Then again, I also understand that this external perspective has little meaning. You can’t magically wish the laws + all those guns away, and like in any arms race you can’t be entirely unarmed until you can enact a more permanent de-armament solution later.

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              50 minutes ago

              It’s actually a lot less common for regular citizens to open carry in the US than some might think from US News. It’s unusual in a protest, and almost always a far right thing. It has been used effectively by the left, but not at scale in the last 50 years.

              The most effective protest movements usually have two approaches going on at the same time, one that threatens violence, and one that is strictly non violent. Non violent movements tend to be ignored until negotiations with them are seen as more favorable than dealing with an armed movement.

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              4 hours ago

              Well yes, and they fear for their lives so goddamn much of the time because they’re poorly trained cowards who are used to being the high school bully and the wife beater and never having their authority threatened.

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              10 hours ago

              It’s one thing for them to be afraid you might be armed, and quite another to know you are armed and surrounded by allies who are also armed.

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                  9 hours ago

                  Yes actually. It’s not immunity from cops, but it protects from general harassment. If the cops want you bad enough then they will get you regardless.