• VerbFlow@lemmy.world
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    You know what? Everyone deserves freedom of speech, and threatening healthcare CEOs is not, in my opinion, a breach of it. There is a huge difference between threatening vulnerable minorities and threatening invulnerable minorities.

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      The thing about Jury Nullification is that you have to make it through the majority of a trial. 97-98% of criminal cases (in the U.S.) end in a plea deal without ever going to trial.

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    I think she’s guilty (you can’t be making threats like that on the heels of someone actually committing an act of violence) but even that is too much time. IDEK if she deserves jail time at all. I’d rather see her get a fine and maybe a month or two of community service.

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      I don’t believe that “You people are next.” is a direct threat.

      What’s the cool-down timer on the free speech special ability ?

      Asking for a friend.

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        I don’t believe that “You people are next.” is a direct threat.

        Sounds pretty direct to me, especially in the context of recent events. I don’t fault the CS rep at all for reporting it to her superiors and the police. Totally reasonable to be wary of copycat crimes or just similar acts of violence against healthcare insurers in general.

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        I don’t believe that “You people are next.” is a direct threat.

        I’m sure you don’t, but it’s a reasonable interpretation of what she said.

        What’s the cool-down timer on the free speech special ability ?

        What do you mean by “special ability”?

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      I don’t think she was actually making a threat, but she sure chose to sound like she was, which was fucking stupid on her part. Given how the rest of the evidence makes it clear the threat wasn’t serious, I don’t think she should be charged as such, but perhaps a lesser charge that affords her a fine or something. Can’t let people get away with that shit, but charging her like she’s making a serious threat of violence is a waste of taxpayer money.

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    Of course not, but they’re going to make an example out of her to deter the rest of the proles.

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        There is zero chance anyone in a power position in the US can grasp these terms and their real life ramifications.

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          Unfortunately that’s my conclusion as well. They’ll do this and congratulate themselves on teaching those poors a lesson. In better language I’m sure but that’s the core meaning. And while they’re doing that the “poors” are going to be making protest signs, at the very least.

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    This reminds me of Minority Report. Arrested by the pre-crime unit.

    Guilty without the crime actually being committed.

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      If her crime is threatening then that actually is what she did, in the past.

      The punishment of 15 years is just way over the top

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        That’s not what she did. There are legal standards for what constitutes a threat, and what she said isn’t one.

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      I don’t think that’s right. She’s been released on bond to house arrest; the charges still stand.

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    She absolutely does not deserve that. Isn’t America the home of free speech? I guess not for the plebs!

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    We should erect a giant bronze statue of Luigi. Put it in a road right near UHC’s headquarters in Minnesota. Make them all drive past it each and every day on the way to work.

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    On the other hand when women complain about threats from stalkers the police do nothing. You might as well delete the word justice from this criminal justice system.