The biggest turnoff for me is that it has no Oled screen. Why downgrade to an LCD from an Oled Nintendo?! Steam deck Oled it is then ☁️⚙️
OLED screen comes 2-3 years later, right around the time consumers will actually entertain the idea of purchasing the same console again.
Basically turned me off from buying one until the next version. Not dealing with the scalpers for something that’s that inferior to my OLED steam deck. Saw a report that N will only be launching with 1/3 of the amount of switch 2’s they launched for the Switch 1. The scalpers are going to have a field day if that’s true.
Artificial scarcity go brrrrr
Where have you seen that it won’t be OLED?
Maybe this is what the average normie wants, but this feels like Nintendo’s least innovative console yet.
Yeeeah, I’m kinda surprised people are feeling hype for this? Idk. I’m probably gonna try and snag one but ONLY because a few years ago my ex got the switch in the breakup. If I already had a switch what exactly are the reasons to buy an upgrade?
I don’t have the slightest clue what anybody expected in a redesign. They’ve kinda got a winning formula for what they’re trying to accomplish with the device, the sequel probably wasn’t going to look all that different.
Many of us are still burnt by the WiiU
The JoyCon mouse theory is looking pretty solid now
Mouse theory?
You’ll be able to use the joycons like you use a computer mouse for input.
There are rumors the joycon have an optical sensor on the side that would allow you to use them as a mouse on a flat surface
Does it? They did show the controllers in the sensor down orientation, but the mouse theory is too wacky.
If you have a joy con handy, take it and place it on a mousepad and move it around. It feels surprisingly good in the hand.
How great would Mario Maker 3 be if you had a mouse input to place all the blocks and select items and stuff.
Or maybe even a track editor for the new Mario Kart! That’d be sweet. And with the mouse they could really let you shape tracks and add foliage easier.
Or just make it where you can plug a mouse into the USB port. Or Bluetooth. Mario Paint for the SNES had a mouse. No need to get crazy designing stuff for dual functions
They can easily do both (have the joycons mouse and ability to use a regular mouse).
And maybe you want to play a mouse game and only have the switch with you. Boom, you have a mouse with you already.
I have heard that the current Switch already supports mice, but very few games use it, since no one has a mouse connected to their Switch, since almost no games use it. If there is an (uncomfortable) mouse included in every Switch 2, game devs will be more willing to include mouse controls in their games. Players who play a lot of mouse enabled games will hook up a real mouse to their system. Much in the same way that every game for the current Switch supports Joycon controls even though many hobbyist gamers will use a more traditional controller.
Not just in sensor-down orientation, but sliding around on a surface in the new wrist strap attachment which appears to have sliders on the “bottom” now
It wouldn’t even be the first time Nintendo released a mouse.
Mario Paint 2 for Switch 2
I would be there day fucking one for that. I have zero artistic talent, but Mario Paint was one of my favorite SNES games. If they do this, I really hope they keep that fly swatter mini game.
Thank fuck it has a good naming system and they stuck with a winning formula this time. Let’s just reuse this hardware design for another decade or two until AR and holodecks are ready to take over
Yeah, unless something really cool comes along, let’s stick with “Switch”. Maybe add some extra feature if something makes sense, but let’s keep the hybrid system for a while.
Been like 8 years I kind of thought it would be a little different but the if it ain’t broke don’t fix it approach has made a lot of money for people in the past I suppose.
Honestly, I’m a little concerned. Nintendo almost always tries something new and innovative. This just looks like a hardware upgrade, which is good, but not what keeps them ahead of their competitors. The Steam Deck is already encroaching on the Switch’s territory, and it’s only a matter of time before Playstation and Xbox try something similar (assuming Microsoft doesn’t just give up on consoles and just make PCs). I was expecting something no one else would try, like a duel-screen that could function like a Wii U and a DS.
When the DS became the best selling gaming handheld we got
- DS OG 2004
- DS Lite 2006
- DSi 2009 (removed Gameboy slot)
- DSi XL 2010
They then went on to make the 3DS in multiple iterations including one where they just removed the 3D functionality and sold it again as a DS and the most recent model in 2017 was…
- New Nintendo 2DS XL
When they have a successful and well selling portable console they slow down on the innovation and go full into embrace the ecosystem as long as possible with minor improvements and if we use the DS as an indicator we have a decade of this.
Yeah it would be very dumb not to capitalize on the success of the Switch.
The difference here is the entire DS line played the same games and provided the same core hardware. The 3DS, 3DS XL, and 2DS all played the same games.
The Switch comparison here would be:
- OG Switch
- Switch Lite
- OLED Switch
The closest comparison for Switch 2 would be the “New 3DS” which had a handful of games that weren’t backwards compatible. Or maybe the Wii U, although that tried to be innovative enough to be its own thing.
We haven’t officially seen the specs yet but it seems safe to say they are more powerful and that “Switch 2 exclusive games” can access that power. That will mean its more like DS/3DS (or PS4/PS5) in that the new gen will get its own library but will still have access to the sizable software catalogue from the earlier gen.
Yeah I would put this in comparison with the OG 3DS however the main changes seem like they may be in the joycon redesign instead of the screen. The game carts will all be basically identical and potentially still swappable between consoles depending on the game. And the added functionality will probably be unfelt by a lot of people who won’t bother with it.
They are working on making the quirk of the system better and giving it an engine tuneup.
They still go long periods of time with practically no “innovation” as that’s not their point but making a fun toy is.
Yeah, but those are just different models, not different systems. Those DSs were all running the same operating system and playing the same games. We’re not talking about a new generation of console (except from DS to 3DS, which I would say is a pretty big graphical shake-up).
Eh, I had the Gameboy, then the Gameboy pocket, then the Gameboy color, then the Gameboy advance, then the Gameboy advance SP, then the DS, and so on. Sure, some were just different models of the same base console, but several were real upgrades with exclusive game libraries. This upgrade feels par for the course when it comes to Nintendo handhelds, and honestly, I like that. The switch was a great idea, and jumping to a new thing just because there’s some competition would be lame. Pretty much the only benefit of capitalism is supposed to be the whole “competition breeds innovation” thing. Maybe we’ll get a bit of that in the handheld market for once.
You’re actually skipping one of their handhelds: the Virtual Boy, Nintendo’s attempt at a 3D console in 1995. It was such a huge flop that its designer, Gunpei Yokoi, delayed his retirement in order to help develop the Gameboy Pocket, which was meant to hold the company over until the Gameboy Color was ready for launch.
I get what about not jumping to a new thing just because, but that’s kinda Nintendo’s whole thing (well, that and abusive IP lawsuits). Sometimes it’s a huge hit, like the Wii, and sometimes it’s a train wreck, like the Wii U, but it’s always different and, either way, it usually causes them to innovate.
That’s what I like about Nintendo; unlike their competitors, they’re not releasing the same product every few years with a graphical update, but that seems like what they’re doing here. I’m used to seeing them keep the same system alive for a decade, like the Gameboy or DS, and I’m used to them coming to market late with a relatively underpowered system, but I’m not used to seeing them say, “That was successful, let’s just make another one of those.”
Ok. That’s great buddy. (☞ ಠ_ಠ)☞
I’m gonna exit this conversation now.
LOL, weird reaction, but OK.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It doesn’t help that the rumored price is $450. If it ends up being that high, I’ll definitely go for a Steam Deck instead. Con: can’t play Switch 2 games. Pro: everything else. I know electronics are super expensive now, but without the advantage of a lower price, a competitor’s portable console that’s not a walled garden is a very tempting alternative.
Oof, yeah, that’s pretty steep for Nintendo. Honestly, I always wait at least a year for the library to build up and the price to drop a bit. I’ve heen thinking that a Steam Deck would be my next purchase as well, and if the Switch 2 turns out OK I’ll get it in a couple of years.
I think price drops are a thing of the past for consoles nowadays, unless you’re getting something used. Neither the Switch nor PS5 ever dropped in price. The PS5 even RAISED in price in some markets.
Neither did wii for that matter.
Oh. Well, that sucks ass. My switch was a present, so I never knew that.
Can’t play Switch 2 game, yet. I have Yuzu/Ryujinx running multiple games at better frame rates than the Switch itself the using SyncThing to keep saves/isos mirrors to my NAS and PC so I could seamlessly move from desktop to Steamdeck and back.
Unironically better functionality than the device I was emulating. I still bought games on the eShop to assuage my conscience, but only after is played more than 4-5hrs so I even gave myself timed demos of everything as opposed to whatever the devs had time to carve out (if they even did).
I wouldn’t count on Switch 2 emulation being nearly as good as Switch 1 was. Not many people are going to be willing to put a lot of effort into it for free when it’s known that Nintendo will aggressively shut them down.
Have you not followed recent news?
Yes.
They run afoul of the law when they bypass encryption, recreate copyrighted programs, or point users to pirated material.
Both Yuzu and Ryujinx had to bypass encryption to be able to run the games. Switch 2 will be the same.
I think a big point in those cases was that the emulators came with the keys included. If you don’t provide the keys (or make them VERY easily available), emulators seem to be legal.
Nothing in that article indicated any sort of change in Nintendo’s stance. I guarantee they will come down hard and fast on anyone who makes enough progress on a Switch 2 emulator to actually be able to run commercial games.
The controllers are also mice
Well, that’s not nothing. It’s almost nothing, but not nothing.
I was really hoping for the hand-held virtual portal they had planned a few years ago. Assuming it got scrapped when 3DS didn’t do as well as they hoped. But yeah, basically the tech from the *new 3DS, upgraded to a bigger single screen with an imu so you could use the portal to control the in-game camera. And it would basically feel like you are looking through and holding an actual portal into the videogame world you are playing.
It’s possible to just do more easily/cheaply in VR now. But I still think a physical device doing it would surprise alot of people.
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Please have analog triggers, pleeeaaasssee
Doesn’t look like it
I like the design a bit more, but it’s nothing new, rather an upgrade to the switch. That’s fine for me. As long as tge switch 2 is a bit more durable i would be happy. Let’s see if that will be the case.
Yeah, it’s exactly what I wanted. Won’t mind if there are any added features, but I am happy with a “powerful” switch.
I hope Ring Fit is backwards compatible!
I love the form factor and size. Apparently it can handle 4K gaming, too. But the only game I want to play on this is Animal Crossing. I’ll hold out for that. Might as well get the AC special edition switch too… Hehehe…
I haven’t been following the leaks, but from the comments here, it seems it will be by DLSS, that is AI upscaling.
It’s bigger!
Woah the lawsuit company that makes games on the side did a thing other then filing lawsuits?
Doesn’t matter, I won’t be spending any more money on Nintendouch products.
They ruined enough fan projects for me to start hating them.
And I have not even touched the subject of the calculated breaking point in the original Switch, better known as Joy-Cons.
Agreed. Especially with x86 and the cornucopia of retro handhelds coming out all the time. Why would I want to waste money on a product that’s going to come out already inferior to the competition, with locked down software experience, from a company that bullies their own fans?
Great games, shitty company. Unfortunately, because of the first thing, a lot of people ignore (and even defend) the second thing.
None of the fan projects would even be possible without Nintendo in the first place, but you do you.
Umm, no? There would just be more fan projects of other games.
I never bought the first Switch, so this is just another thing I won’t buy.
Obligatory fuck Nintendo.
I like the blue and pink accent colours. Looks fresh!
