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    19 hours ago

    Critical industries should use EU tech. Preferably opensource and preferably not by a monopoly.

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      As a Canadian I have seen our government crumble to for-profit entities. The issue is that a lot of governments do not want the liability of something if it fails.

      Will EU countries that planned to use open source options and their own staff, already on the payroll, still likely create a procurement plan for maintenance and ongoing tech support?

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        For things like government data, they sort of have to run that infrastructure. I certainly do not want my tax data or the like on a Google server or similar. Also people will blame the government anyway, if something goes wrong.

        However non government entities can certainly develop software. There is a lot of it used by governments, which is also of interest for private entities and having that sort of tech support is interesting to companies as well. Also it being open source creates competition for getting those sort of contracts. As multiple companies can work on the same project.

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          I get triggered when a for profit entity (like ESRI) uses open data and then sells it to governments…

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    Great, start with excluding Microsoft! Oh, didn’t you just say that is impossible? /s

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      With the shipping containers of money that goes that way great open source alternatives could have been funded to easily get on their level.

      The Dutch government at some point after XP was phased out paid millions (which came down to hundreds per computer) for extended support on just that.

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      It’s so frustrating that most companies in Europe go for the three biggest cloud providers. It’s such a shame that we don’t have a MS, Google or AWS scale cloud provider in Europe.

      Hetzner has gotten some real progress, but does not seem to be the default option, or even considered for most companies

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              Ah, I deleted because I wasn’t familiar with the community. I just said OVH looked nice, and that a lot AWS features are just things you can do yourself but pricier.

              I was looking at OVH a couple of weeks ago.

              If I was a provider outside the big 3, I may consider a strategy that focused on great documenation/guides/templates to enable users to spool up common services with just the hardware service on my platform.

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      Americans want and have spyware in te very core of our infrastructure. Look at what happened when they offered to help Greece with their comms for the olympics, they killed a network designer who found their spyware.

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        Americans want and have spyware in te very core of our infrastructure. Look at what happened when they offered to help Greece with their comms for the olympics, they killed a network designer who found their spyware.

        Source?

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          1. “The Athens Affair” – This article from IEEE Spectrum offers an in-depth analysis of the wiretapping incident, detailing how unauthorized software was installed in Vodafone Greece’s network, the subsequent discovery, and the broader implications of the breach.

          2. “Vodafone fined €76m over Greek wiretap scandal” – This report by Pinsent Masons discusses the substantial fine imposed on Vodafone by Greece’s privacy watchdog due to the illegal monitoring of mobile calls, including those of top government officials.

          3. “CASE OF TSALIKIDIS AND OTHERS v. GREECE” – This document from the European Court of Human Rights examines the investigation into Kostas Tsalikidis’ death, highlighting the court’s findings on the adequacy of the Greek authorities’ inquiry.

          4. “Vodafone exec’s death in 2005 a murder, not suicide, prosecutor finds” – This article from the Athens-Macedonian News Agency reports on the 2018 conclusion by a prosecutor that Tsalikidis’ death was a murder, overturning earlier rulings of suicide.

          5. “Greek wiretapping case 2004–05” – The Wikipedia page provides a comprehensive overview of the wiretapping case, including details about the discovery of the illegal taps, the subsequent investigations, and the death of Kostas Tsalikidis.

          6. “The Greek wiretapping scandal and the false promise of intelligence…” – This research paper delves into the complexities of the wiretapping scandal, discussing the involvement of intelligence agencies and the broader implications for privacy and security.

          7. “Vodafone embroiled in Greek phone-tapping scandal” – This article from The Guardian discusses Vodafone’s involvement in the phone-tapping scandal, providing insights into the company’s response and the broader implications of the incident.

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      18 hours ago

      Thanks!

      You can add that as a link and have the picture still, would make it easier than looking for the source in comments.

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            Thanks, but for some reason I don’t have the option for using thumbnails

            I guess it’s because of the instance?

            Anyways, the alternative is posting the image into the body then?

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              I guess it’s because of the instance?

              Yeah, lemmy.world is still stuck on older version that does not have option to do it.

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              Havent thought of that; yes, this communities’ instance uses Lemmy in a small version before this feature (nothing bad in it otherwise, I know firsthand updating this can be a pain). Yours is lagging even more btw, current version is 0.19.8, you can log in to lemmy.ml or any other fully up to date one to check if that changes anything important for you. Otherwise its not a major issue.

              So yeah, leaving either the pic or the link in the body might be the best there is to be done for now.