• FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml
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    7 days ago

    …democracies? i haven’t watched a lot of star wars but isn’t the whole point that they are fighting a fascist empire

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    We’re headed straight to cyberpunk instead. Looking forward to watching juiced up and modded humans fight each other.

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    No, sorry, we’re going for Neuromancer style corpo control, possibly with the veneer of democratic republics. No Jedi for you, best we can do is… Well, have you read Snow Crash?

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      Star Trek’s WWIII happened from 2026-2053, I believe. So we’re still on track.

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        Vulcans would have to be real. Their presence is what makes humanity realize there’s a better way to live.

        In fact Cochrane himself states that he built warp drive just to get rich. His intention was to jumpstart capitalism in a post-war world that had no functioning economy.

        If Vulcans landed on our Earth after WWIII, we would just kill them and create the Mirror Universe instead.

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    It’s more like we’re headed towards Elysium, except the rich dickheads move underground because the whole in-orbit thing is waaaay too fucking hard.

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    We are very much on Trek. For reference, check out season 3 episodes 11 and 12 of Deep Space Nine. These episodes take place on Earth in 2024, roughly six months ago. It was always clearly laid out in Trek that their path to utopia was paved with war and hardship.

    Well that and the fact that our first contact in Trek is with a peaceful but vastly superior race. We had everything to gain by creating an alliance and could have easily been wiped out by Klingons or Romulans if we didn’t.

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    …where immigrants are objectified and treated exactly as disposably and thoughtlessly as the droids are in Star Wars.

    It actually really bothers me how Star Wars loves to charm the audience with charismatic clearly sentient robot slaves and yet doesn’t give a fuck about ANY of the ethical implications of all that fun except for the occasional flavor sideplot. I am tired of people normalizing this and laughing it all off cus aren’t the robot slaves cute when they grumble? (similar thing with LOTR and orcs basically, but ugly because ugly = evil).

    They are sentient, it is fucked up to deal with it extremely inconsistently and it demonstrates a stunning lack of understanding of the responsibility storytellers have to subvert dehumanizing narratives that can lead to egregious systematic storytelling issues.

    Star Wars unintentionally reflects the culture it came out of in many ways, and not in a good way.

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      Sadly, Star Wars mostly just reflects one single white man’s subconscious understanding of that culture (George Lucas). Just in the fact that Trek was written by many (yes, Roddenberry was very important but not the only voice) makes it more interesting, at least to me.