No his kids should be allowed to live their lives, Musk free. Odds are that they are victims too, and would like to distance themselves from their pathetic father. Vivian should be able to have a kid of her own, whatever the means, if she believes she can be a good parent.
I think if they’re all queer, no intervention is needed. the closer they are to the sorts of people he would have wanted them to be, the more intervention would be necessary.
I agree it’s not fair to them, but also, if you want to suggest anyone should be punished for anyone, that it’s ever appropriate, then not using collective punishment to make an example via relatively small interventions in his children’s lives is kind of absurd. it’s not about them, it’s not even about him. punishment is a message to others who come later.
and there is no argument against this that doesn’t sound like boot licking nonsense from anyone who isn’t a total prison abolitionist.
No his kids should be allowed to live their lives, Musk free. Odds are that they are victims too, and would like to distance themselves from their pathetic father. Vivian should be able to have a kid of her own, whatever the means, if she believes she can be a good parent.
I think if they’re all queer, no intervention is needed. the closer they are to the sorts of people he would have wanted them to be, the more intervention would be necessary.
I agree it’s not fair to them, but also, if you want to suggest anyone should be punished for anyone, that it’s ever appropriate, then not using collective punishment to make an example via relatively small interventions in his children’s lives is kind of absurd. it’s not about them, it’s not even about him. punishment is a message to others who come later.
and there is no argument against this that doesn’t sound like boot licking nonsense from anyone who isn’t a total prison abolitionist.