Saw someone talking about moving that reminded me to ask this. I really want to stay in the U.S. to build socialism but sometimes I fear it is past the event horizon, that things will only get more gruesome, and I want my loved ones to live.

I have not the slightest clue where I would move to. Obviously the one we all think about sometimes is China, but I know next to nothing about the language, culture, history, values etc. and don’t know how I would adjust. It also seems it would be difficult as someone with no education or marketable job skills in respected fields.

Sometimes I think about places like Cuba because it is much more familiar to me culturally, linguistically etc. but then it seems an area like that is going to get a bad hand dealt to it with climate change.

Western countries would be the most familiar, and I do think perhaps they have a greater capacity for positive change than the U.S., but this also seems like it would be moving somewhere just 5-10 years behind collapse of America. Who’s to say which of these societies will jump ship to the new world order, if any?

Sometimes I also fear people across the world slowly (and understandably) becoming vehemently anti-USian, whether the US empire dies or clings on. Many older generations across the world seem to still think very fondly of Americans and our country, but I do not think the younger generations seem as affected by the global pro-American propaganda. Perhaps this is American cynicism to think like this, but perhaps it is not too crazy to imagine an era of people hating Americans and resenting American refugees, even if we try to play the “But I hated America too!” card.

Regardless, obviously being a refugee sucks regardless if one leaves “ahead of the curve” or not. It’s not supposed to be fun to feel coerced into leaving your home to escape doom, as many a country has experienced under American brutality.

It also seems kind of impossible because moving is so expensive, although I understand that if the situation becomes truly dire many Middle Easterners and Latin Americans in the last half century have managed to make grand treks with little to no possessions…although of course, many then end up in terrible situations.

What about you all? What are your situations, considerations, predictions, and interest regarding this topic?

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    2 years ago

    I’m in a similar boat where I’d like to leave but don’t know where to go. I want to be a part of some communist country and actually have work that made things better for society but my job/ work experience isn’t really something that makes me unique enough to be of value to another country. Like i feel they would be like “we can train out own people to do this why should we even consider letting you in.”

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      Really agreeing with that, I wish I had the dedication and capacity to work forward to be a dedicated Communist but I’m unfortunately not and I’ve been growing tired of the horseshit going on in the United States. At times I feel like moving to South Africa which is technically my second home country and ethnically apart of but like what you’ve said about wanting to be apart of a Communist country, I honestly wish I could immigrate to China and adapt there but I’m ill-equipped as expected.