• ComradeChris101@lemmygrad.ml
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    I remember playing Company of Heroes 2 and realizing how they portray the Soviets as worse than the Nazi Germans though the Nazi Germans in the cutscenes had POA patches. Treating the Soviet commanders as unsympathetic who treat their own soldiers as cannon fodder, backstabbers to allies and so on. Putting in Soviet “atrocities” in text on the load screens. Its greatly disgusting…

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      I don’t play its campaign after hearing about those. Really, it sound like Relic use the same research team from Enemy at the Gate.

      The multiplayer meta also encourage playing Soviet in similar way to how western stereotype portray : trading casualties for victory.

      • Penal squad (that for some reason has self-loading rifle) got really powerful satchel charges, but need to be dangerously close to hostile to throw them, meaning they’re sure to die a lot.

      • Conscripted squad are even stated in the tooltips to die a lot, and that’s how you supposed to use them, because you can afford to loss a few people in a squad and still remain effective, unlike Grenadier.

      • T-34 is the cheapest medium tank in game, but, in one of the worst historical bullshit of the game, can barely penetrate Pz.IV armor, while completely at the mercy of Pz.IV superior protection and firepower. But, hey, you can RAM enemy tank with them, a guarantee vehicle loss, but deal crippling damage to whatever it managed to ram.

      And probably more that I forgot.

      Now that we talked about it, CoH2 has a notorious issue regarding balance, in that if the game went on long enough, the German get undisputed advantage over any allies nation. I’ve once did calculation, and notice that both German factions would be able to crank out mediums almost a full minutes before Allies factions (It take around 210 fuel for German to deploy their first medium, but at least 245 for allies to do the same), and that assuming the players skip unnecessary fuel usage to start producing medium tanks as soon as possible. I don’t play either US or UK, but as Soviet, you probably would wanted to spend another 70 or so fuel on a light tank or half-track, which set you back another minutes.

      This mean that German can deploy their medium sooner than allies, and their medium are superior to their allies counterpart. More than that, unlike Allies, both German factions have access to heavy tanks without needing specialized commander, which can call in even heavier tanks.

      It make one wonder if Relic HQ have a life-size statue of mustache man inside or something.

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        Aren’t Relic Brits? It makes sense for then to screech about USSR. Plus I suspect they just suck at balancing. In Dawn of War, their game about Warhammer 40k, each time a new faction was introduced it was a veritable BEAST and had to be nerfed afterwards

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      It’s even more suspicious when you contrast it with how Relic portrayed the German Fascists in the earlier Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts and Company of Heroes: Tales of Valor. It’s shockingly mature and respectful compared to how the developers misportrayed the Soviets. Come to think of it, I don’t remember a part in the campaigns where the player was expected to commit a war crime on behalf of the Axis either. If the devs were simply too scared to handle a sensitive subject like war crimes then that would have made sense, but they made Company of Heroes 2

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      Wait till you try the “Strategic Mind: Spectre of Communism”, game which have super based animated steam avatars with Stalin, Molotov, Zhukov, Rokossovky, etc.

      Just intro made me uninstall.

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      They show the Soviets and using flamethrowers on houses full of Soviet citizens to prevent them from being captured by the Germans. Along with other disgusting propaganda and made up war crimes like NKVD officers executing partisans, MG blocking detachments for ELITE SHOCK TROOPS of all units, and made up stuff like attributing all of the Soviets success to “General Winter”. All of which that I’ve just mentioned is all post war Nazi propaganda.

      The game was made by Ukrainians in Canada, many of which had relatives that served in the Ukrainian SS Galician battalion that fled to Canada after the war.