I’ve yet to see a single reason to have loyalty to a corpo
It’s literally the opposite. It’s very rare to work for a company that will consistently give you cost of living and performance increases that would outweigh a lateral move to another company. Someone who stays with the same company for more than five years is likely losing money to stay there.
“I know these assholes and what to expect from them. Moving to a new company means a whole new crop of assholes and unspoken rules that I have to learn to succeed. Pass.”
Not going somewhere else to get more money isn’t the same as losing money. That’s like saying I’m saving money by not buying $expensive_item when I wouldn’t buy that type of thing anyway.
If I’m a painter, I’m not losing money by not being the CEO of RandomOtherCorp. Conflate ye not.
It is though. That is the literal definition of opportunity cost.
If you’re a first year painter working for a general contractor, you’re going to be paid less than a more experienced painter. After five years, you’ll be able to get more money from another general contractor applying as a painter with five years experience. You’re less likely to do that if you like working for your current general contractor.
Sounds like a guy who needs to be punched in the face.
Having to work for Expedia is probably punishment enough…
God I hate these guys who hop from one to the other job every few years. It’s always the guys who talk big, and when they can’t deliver (mostly because their “great” ideas will break something else) quickly leave “because this company is too much set in it’s ways”.
Lol, I hate people licking corpo boots. No company deserves my loyalty. That’s been proven to me over and over again, they also definitely don’t deserve my best either. They can get what they always give, the bare minimum to stay an employee.
I have 0 faith in these types of people. they stir up pot and leave in a few years. I let them do what they want and then change it back later. They achieve nothing because they refuse to listen and they just want to say the did x for the resume.
It’s the only way my partner has ever gotten a raise.
It’s not the only way I’ve got a raise. I also got a raise once by saying I was planning on leaving. But I guess that’s pretty similar :)
I always think of the raise at the threat of leaving in the following way:
- They could afford you at the higher price but tried to not pay you what you’re worth.
- They now know that you’re willing to leave and are less reliable. This can lead them to use the increase to look for a replacement with the time the raise has bought them.
Doing it collectively might be a bit of a different situation, though.
And who’s going to thank you for getting ground down to the bone doing a job you hate? Loyalty is a lie.
Says who I hate my job? I have switched jobs occasionally, but these guys will work somewhere for less than two years on average. I’m specifically referring to the seagull category of coworkers here, they come flying in with a lot of noise, shit all over the place and then leave with a lot of noise, leaving the shit to clean up for others.
i remember being in an interview for a new marketing leador my dev team. the dude had 13 jobs over 10 years. to me that was the bigge;t of red flags. dude got hired in spite of my protest.
i cannot think ok a worse employee i have ever worked with an i once had a boss embezzle $100k before skipping town.
Enough with the sympathy for the Microsoft layoffs! They worked at Microsoft!
How is your being at one organisation, then another, both for relatively short periods of time, relevant? How does that tell you that other people aren’t “loyal”? Why do you think loyalty even enters the equation?
owned
what? Did you mean “owed”? Which, still, fuck off, but that would make at least sense in context, I suppose?
Yeah, presuming a typo there. Or Freudian slip at worst.
One of the less lunatic posts here. Beyond what’s required by law and by contract, neither party owes the other shit… which is to say, from the perspective of living in a place that has the luxury of real worker protection laws and rights, Americans are kinda boned.
neither party owes the other shit…
FYI, this belief actively keeps folks (including me, previously) out of some really productive, effective and great communities.
While it’s legally true, it’s not ethically acceptable in many important mutual aid agreements.
I find that once I spend enough time in a community, I owe a lot of people for a lot of good they have done me.
I didn’t previously have strong awareness of this, and my lack of awareness limited my career progress and community reputation.
Edit: I find that someone posted it to LinkedIn is particularly funny, since LinkedIn is all about posturing for a mostly imaginary community.
Yeah, once upon a time there was an idea of sacrifice for the company and it waill sacrifice for you. That is gone, but not everyone knows this. Now no one should ever sacrfice or compromise for a company, thinking it will show thier loyalty and get paid back.
