Can they really be called spaceships if they never get to space?
Even worse - he named his space vessels ‘Starship’ - implying that they have the ability to travel between stars.
They will study this man’s narcissism in future history classes alongside Trump. The era of the ego.
Even worse worse, he named prior projects after Culture ship names. Whose author despised him.
I mean by that definition, Voyager is a starship, eventually.
Voyager I and II are probes, not ships.
A ship can transport people or goods, and I argue that data is a type of good.
Friendship transports a type of good.
There’s that golden record, so there are physical goods as well.
Yeah but we already have a less ambiguous name which is “probe” haha.
I would argue that its purpose as a probe outweighs its purpose as a ship, as such the specification of probe would still outweigh it being a starship by technicality.
People going to space are called astronauts - in this context I see no problem with Starship.
I’m not sure how the context of the word “astronaut” justifies implying interstellar travel that you aren’t capable of.
It justifies it by precedens. Aster means star - astronauts have been called people travelling to stars for a long time, even though interstellar travel is not possible for us yet, so naming their means of transport Starship is not out of line. It just follows a kind of funny naming tradition.
Is cosmonaut filled with as much hubris?
Depends on interpretation. Cosmos is Greek for the universe
Tbf, they are travelling through the Universe. But so are all of us, so we’re all equally cosmonauts.
Time travelers too
You’re right. I think it could be interpreted as space as well, a kind of universe sensu stricto, excluding our little round home.
I can’t find the article now, but there was a news article that talked about “interstellar missions to mars”, and it drove me nuts
technically, travelling on earth (or anywhere else in the universe), is travelling between stars, because we’re likely to be between 2.
A car isn’t a ocean cruiser just because it’s always between two oceans
Narcissists are pure evil and deserve to be slaughtered in gas chambers
Technically they’re fireworks.
Steamships don’t sail on steam, but they’re called steamships anyway because they have steam in them. Elon Musk’s spaceships don’t use up every bit of volume contained within them, therefore they contain space.
Don’t steam ships use steam engines? (Or at least did historically?)
Some do, some don’t.
Half&half
The last one got into space …and then caught on fire.
Which is impressive, as fire usually needs excess oxygen available.
Rockets carry oxygen (oxidizers) with them. It’s kinda how they work.
Yeah they’ve reduced safety for payload. The ship vibrates so badly the fuel lines get destroyed, mix, and cause the fires.
I call them improvised explosive devices.
And every explosion is absolutely devastating the environment. As well as making the town nearby a hell on earth. Not the only town he’s destroying with his toxic businesses either.
They get to space, they just don’t stay in space. Like every vehicle meant to be crewed by humans.
Cybertrucks are spaceships, because they take up space.
ok, but even a slight rain destroys them, they can’t be ships
“Do you think that foreign students might have materially contributed to the creation of your spaceships?”
If this isn’t the kind of stuff you’re asking. You’re doing it wrong.
The press is very deeply beholden to wealth.
What’s your question? Keep in mind that he can get up and walk away from the interview at any time.
Elon getting up mid interview and walking away would be spectacular. That’s more damaging than “I don’t want to answer that”.
Better than letting the shitstain get free advertising for his companies by conducting a non-critical interview about spaceships. The era where people thought of him as some kind of Tony Stark really should be over, and any journalists conducting interviews with that premise are just serving his cause.
nothing? do you see a question mark?
so you just dont ever ask any pressing questions? I see why your objective media coverage tumbled down a cliff in the recent months
Months? Its always been like this. News media is a loss-maker, you dont get promoted if youre not an effective propagandist for the owners, you don’t get interviews with powerful figures if they dont expect it to benefit them. When the press core was informed, for the first time, that we had invaded Panama, their question weren’t “wtf what do you mean we just invaded a foreign country” or “how many civilians died”, it was “did any americans due”
Then film him getting up and running off and report about what a little bitch he is.
You know that you’re in the right when you’re ashamed to share your opinion publicly.
You’re not wrong but we’ve already had enough fascists not feeling ashamed to air heinous ideas publicly in the US. Shame isn’t a good, universal metric because some people don’t feel it and will weaponize that.
He’s not ashamed, he’s scared of Trump.
You’re right, groupthink is definitely the way to go. And everybody loves bring harassed.
Not saying Musk is right here, but… Not great logic.
It doesn’t require group think to understand Nazis are bad for everyone that isn’t a nazi.
Lol nazis are even bad for other nazis. It’s not even a real belief, it’s just a severe case of hate, gone organized and pretending it’s a political structure. I bet if you did a computer simulation where it was just 10 million nazis, they’d destroy themselves quickly.
“Free speech absolutist”
To be fair, free speech should include the freedom not to speak.
Musk isn’t playing fair though.
He should fucking exercise it more
I agree he doesn’t have to answer, but if you’re supposed to be REALLY into free speech which largely means freedom of the press, you probably wouldn’t be into giving the press huge stipulations on what questions they are allowed to ask or not.
I plead the fifth.
I want to thank the OP for not showing felons disgusting pig face in the meme
This Exchange happened because MUSK is a BIG STRONG MAN and NOT a Snowflake!
in that case: what happened to your face? Did you fall and hit your head on one of your spaceships?
If a billionaire you know is suffering from mysterious falls, it’s important to let someone know so they can laugh at them too
Or lead him to an open window…
Was your torso mutated by some kind of space rays?
He’s such a whiny bitch.
FYI, this is the actual transcript, not a meme.
“Please stick to making me look good”
No. Well… No.
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No. No, no, no. Under no circumstances should anyone fuck Elon Musk. I cannot emphasize this enough. Elon Musk should be left alone to go fuck himself.
Anyone fucking Elon Musk deserves the Purple Heart 💜🎖️
What does that mean? (The US medal thing? I thought it was about the emoji)
The Purple Heart is an American military medal for those wounded in combat.
What if he lets soap drop in a prison?
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It’s mildly amusing though.
Nah, he’s not hot enough. Plus the nazi vibe really doesn’t help
You can have any color you want as long as it is black.
I think you meant white…
Stainless steel?
I can’t believe im saying this but even Ford was accidentally a better person than Musk.
Bootlick harderThey’re correct. But neither is he a space or engineering expert, so maybe we should just ignore his opinions on those things entirely as well.
They are wrong that none of his “endeavors” deal with immigration.
True, but he’s only an expert in exploiting visa workers.
well lets not get carried away with the “expert” title.
I actually disagree, Elon has been a high profile, staunch supporter of the Republicans and Trump for a while now and was at a high level position with a lot of influence on the government (head of DOGE), and still has significant influence on Republicans, I think it’s only natural to ask someone like that their opinions on government policy.
He isn’t a government expert either, so why TF is he fucking with our government?
Fucking Elmo stans are such unbelievable losers it’s not even funny.
Gonna laugh my ass off when they lose everything after Tesla stock finally pops.
“So… about your spaceships. Would you allow foreign kids on them?”
“If they pay me 10 million dollars, sure.”
Nazi coward gonna Nazi cower.
Guys let’s try to keep the discussion about Rampart
