• Nalivai@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that there are conservative democrats who prefer more conservative democrats over progressive anyone, and there are conservative republicans who don’t want to vote for Trump but wouldn’t vote for any progressives either. The work that demonstrates that is every single democratic primaries, and all the conservative ones.
    Also, I am explicitly not advocating for moving to the right, if you need me to spell it out. I don’t think it’s a good decision morally, and I don’t think it’s a good decision politically.
    What I’m advocating for, is for progressives to participate in democracy, and not wait for democracy to happen to them. Conservatives vote more than progressives. Democratic party consistently interprets it as a call to move to the right, that’s how democracy works. That’s bad. The only way to fix that is to outvote conservatives.

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      4 hours ago

      Also, I am explicitly not advocating for moving to the right, if you need me to spell it out. I don’t think it’s a good decision morally, and I don’t think it’s a good decision politically.

      And yet you/re saying it “demonstrably” works. I see no demonstration.

      What I’m advocating for, is for progressives to participate in democracy, and not wait for democracy to happen to them.

      Keep getting shut out by an establishment that prefers donald trump to raising the minimum wage? Must be your fault no matter how hard you work because you’re not involved enough! We never have to change! Well, except to move to the right!

      Democratic party consistently interprets it as a call to move to the right, that’s how democracy works.

      That’s how excuses work. They know moving to the right doesn’t net them any republican votes (“dEmOnStRaBlY” or otherwise), but since they want to move to the right no matter what, they use it as an excuse.

      Republicans won’t vote for the lesser evil. They prefer the greater evil every time. But it’s a great excuse for centrist democrats who want to be evil to keep being more evil.