The topic was why it took the shitlibs and Hasanabi-watching leftists (lol) a fucking tattoo to denounce Graham Platner, an Iraq veteran who did 4 trips to the war zone and then joined the Blackwater mercenary company to kill even more people.
The topic was why it took the shitlibs and Hasanabi-watching leftists (lol) a fucking tattoo to denounce Graham Platner, an Iraq veteran who did 4 trips to the war zone and then joined the Blackwater mercenary company to kill even more people.
Doing an updated take on my other comment, the army, and a lot of it also applies to the police forces, are composed of people, and no matter how you slice it, the vast majority are proletariat, not the most precarious proletariat, but proletariat, and it is unreasonable to believe that at least some part of those individuals, chose those careers because they believed it was the best pay they could get from where they came from, you understand unemployment you understand that most people do not choose jobs completely freely. That is one of the points I want to make clear and I believe this one is quite grounded in reality
Next point, yes the job and function of those institutions is to oppress and discipline the proletariat overall, keep the people in their place, there is no doubt about that eithe, I’m not questioning that. But to claim that because of the atrocities committed by the organization every single member is either agrees or at least have no problems with does not track, it can be that even the majority is like that but still it’s not a forgone conclusion.
Next point, even a small number of members of armed forces sympathetic to our cause can be of crucial strategic value, not because they can change things from the inside, but they can potentially offer training, inside information, among and myriad of other things
Based on that I do think that the line of thought that goes: is part of the army = is and Nazi and I hate you. Achieves very little, makes their side of propaganda even easier, and prevents us from potentially getting strategic support from inside of crucial organizations
Those are my thoughts on the subject, I have no beef with anyone that disagrees and I do completely understand the deep aversion from those forces, I do, the US military have been a very destructive force on my continent (South America) I have no love for the organization, neither for the US as a country as well, but I do understand that the people of the USA are not the responsibles for what the US as an nation does, just the same way that I don’t blame every soldier for the actions of the Pentagon
Not true, actually. The majority of the US army forces come from privileged backgrounds.
I’m sorry comrade but it’s still proletariat, as I said not the most precarious, but still if you are not bourgeoisie, you are proletariat, that is elementary, there is no two ways about it. I do not want to redeem the military forces I do not believe we can change the institution, but I think directing propaganda towards them can yield benefits, if it’s the best way to go about it, that is to be pondered and decided, but still my point holds
You misspelled ‘Class traitors’.
That’s not an argument, I’m up for debating conflicting ideas and understanding the perspectives, but just saying stuff like this do not achieve anything