I was a captive audience to someone talking about how some countries only had access to China’s vaccine. They said the vaccine was terrible and people took it and still got COVID.

But like… I took American vaccines and still got COVID…

…and over a million people in the US died of COVID, some of whom where vaccinated with US subsidized, corporate vaccines.

It was brought up because others were talking about global inequality during the pandemic. So having to take the subpar sinovac was apparently all part of global inequalities.

I hate talking about COVID and I feel like it’s so distracting and people try to make everything about COVID because it’s so easy to do. Maybe that is just a hot take but this argument that sinovac sucks because people still contracted COVID is at best a really lazy way to try to say US vaccines are better.

Also the same person implied masking prevents people from contracting the virus… instead of preventing you from spreading it to others like was repeated ad nasium by medical representatives for 2 years straight.

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    Didn’t the RNA vaccines have issues with finding & surviving in freezer storage (mostly just due to shitty compressors)?

    Also heard gossip about them having limited effectiveness on variants, & (this is even more hearsay bc I haven’t kept track well) being misdosed. On top of us attempting deliberately sending days-from-expiration vaccines to poorer countries through COVAX, not distributing them properly domestically at first and severely fucking up the messaging, it makes sense countries balked from or were unable to reach vaccine agreements with us. I’ve heard that one a fair bit too like China didn’t fare well without our vaccine. Fantastical thinking without any idea of how it all went down. You really saw these people clam up after their predictions of a post-0-covid apocalypse didn’t come to fruition. They just forgot about it I guess because they stopped getting fed the outrage articles they covertly consume like junk food addicts.

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      Yep, at the start it was hard getting good enough freezer space to transport them. Sinovac is more forgiving on that aspect and easier to manufacture in mass iirc. Early on it seemed like the vaccines were all about similar, not sure how that turned out to today.

      We made everything difficult about the response even at home, the more a disaster is fumbled, the more money for the companies involved. 100% profit over lives and that lasts to today and will last until people get fed up.

      Vaccines are generally sort of like having extra armor in old school Doom, you’ll still run the potential of getting hit, but its less likely to 1-shot you when it does. Every virus group works a bit differently too vs the immune sys, so any vaccine made has that in mind as well but gets into immunology and I never took that lol.

      The whole antivax thing is wild in the US, it wasn’t great before, but where I live now some have started to deny the existence of any viruses, not just Covid19.