Alright I know this is terminally online behavior but I keep seeing this thrown around, and I would like to know the story behind this claim, with evidence. I wasn’t an ML when Bay Area was doxxed and have only really seen a few if his archives videos.

Please do not reply with “this is online drams slop” or whatever, I’m just seeking information on thus topic and recognize it’s terminally online behavior.

  • rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml
    17·
    3 个月前

    If by evidence you mean screenshots of BadEmpanada actually admitting to the act of doxxing bayarea415 or detailed forensics of BE collecting data from BA415, well there is none that I found.

    HOWEVER, there was a post in Lemmygrad where a user explained that BadEmpanada was actually celebrating the doxxing against bayarea415 and even broadcast some PII(Personal Identifiable Information) that were available from the doxxing -> https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1426210

    He then ridicules BayArea415 for actually being a foreclosure lawyer, as if this is something hypocritical and anti-leftist. As far as I understand he was defending the people who’ve had their houses be foreclosed.

    The “foreclosure lawyer” data is PII and BE should have never shared that information in his channel.

    Sadly, due to the problem with the images in Lemmygrad, some of the images posted by that user won’t load.

  • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
    97·
    3 个月前

    If you want an excuse to hate BE there are no shortage of reasons. Hes got dozens of really bad takes to choose from. Why bother looking at one specific instance?

    • Jeanne-Paul Marat@lemmygrad.ml
      182·
      3 个月前

      …because we’re materialists who rely on evidence to make decisions? I don’t even like BE but I more take issue with the foolish logic. Imagine if we said this about other things. “We already hate the cia, why do you need evidence of MK ultra?” Etc. Etc.

      • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
        22·
        3 个月前

        Would less or more evidence of MK ultra change your opinion on the CIA? If the Epstein files were proven to be fake would you change your mind about stringing up the ruling class? What good has more evidence done the revolution?

        How many new members has your org seen because of the epstein files? How many people have you met that have been convinced by the files that capitalism is evil and must be destroyed?

        I would say the release of the epstein files has radicalized less people than it has subjugated. Most people have been cowed by the brazen depravity of the imperialist ruling class. They are actively trying to ignore it and it has them living in such a state of cognitive dissonance they can’t even consider being a threat to the imperialists. A few others are expending massive amounts of effort pulling at all the strings, digging through the evidence to build a “bigger picture” of the crimes when the big picture is simple “the rich do whatever horrific things they like to whomever they like.”

        The focus on knowledge is antithetical to action. What we need is more action not more knowledge. We need people to stop listening to grifters like BE and start engaging with real orgs and doing real things.

    • Malkhodr @lemmygrad.mlOP
      6·
      3 个月前

      Was just curious of this often repeated occurrence. Since I wasn’t around when the BayArea situation happened I wanted to ask others who may have had a better understanding.

  • thatsnomayo [he/him]@lemmy.mlBEnglish
    77·
    3 个月前

    BE hardly even pretends to understand the theft of labor time that supposedly underlies his beliefs… even radlibs like jason hickel understand arghiri emmanuel era stuff (which fails to account for the hoarding/theft/destruction of means of production by the center, hence why western-palatable world systems theory refuses to advance beyond it). crazy talk from him daily

    honestly if you disagree with people online you should straight up kill them, so I can’t comment on the doxxing