• socsa@piefed.social
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      1 month ago

      Nah, I will readily admit that vegans are morally correct, that I am weak for being unable to commit fully, and also that the evangelism is often cringe and counterproductive.

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        The weakness is not daring to fully understand how vegans are morally correct. I ate animals for 34 years and was too weak to face the reality of their situation.

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        I’m not a vegan, but behavior change (if you want to change) is most effectively accomplished with smaller, incremental changes. If you try to make huge, sweeping changes from the start, there’s a very good chance you won’t stick with it. Vegans expecting you to “just” eliminate all animal products on day 1 is very unrealistic.

        For the animal products example, you could reduce (not eliminate) consumption of one thing at a time. Start with one meal per week for a week or two, reduce the portion of meat or other animal product you want to eliminate by 1/3 or whatever you can manage. After a week or two, you reduce the portion in another meal. Give it a week or two. Then another portion. And another after that. Etc.

        If you can do more, then try it out. If you feel like you can’t reduce one week or another, don’t pressure yourself to do it, just consider it a victory of sorts that you didn’t eat more. It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Taper the dosage, don’t go cold turkey.

        I haven’t done this for animal products, but I have done it with alcohol and prescription medication. I can’t guarantee you’ll see success, all I can say is that it worked for me and others I learned from.

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          There’s also the “try it for X-amount of time and see how you feel at the end.” I knew someone who went vegan after deciding to try it out for a month. At first it was a trial run, but by the end he decided to keep going.

          Either way, taking baby steps is always the start. Whether you’re cutting back or decide to try it out for a span of time, you’re making personal progress.

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          I’ve been gradually cutting out meat from my diet for years. I started with pigs “because they’re so smart”, then watched cute cow videos and stopped eating them. Those are, iirc, the highest environmental impact meats so just that much does a fair amount of harm reduction.

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        I think veganism just self-selects for insane people, because you have to be a bit crazy to go against 98% of the population, eat differently than your friends and family, and ask constantly if things have cheese or milk in them everywhere you go.

        source: me e: im literally talking about myself in this paragraph

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          and ask constantly if things have cheese or milk in them everywhere you go

          Well, tbf ya vegans aren’t alone on this one

          • my friend who dies if 0.001g of lactose gets in contact with his mouth
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          As someone who has gone a bit crazy eating against 99% of the population, differently then friends and family, and always having to ask if things have sugar or oil in them everywhere I go… I can confirm I am insane.