• Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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      Given a terrorist straps babies onto their bodies and begins attacking people. Is it morally wrong to stop the terrorist with force or will anything to stop him from massacring people is a war crime?

      officer, you need to get better material you’re literally paraphrasing a comic villain for some dumbass thought experiment instead of actual reality. -that reality being that the european settler state holds all the cards and you’re victim blaming the people resisting.

      you would literally defend anything though because you’re either getting paid to push this shit ignorantly or are someone who belongs at the bottom of a pit.

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        I’ll make it easy for you. Hamas is the government of the people and they use human shields. If you use a human shield the fault does not fall on the one stopping the terrorist. It falls on the terrorist. What backwards logic. You didn’t even refute it btw. That “dumbass thought experiment.” It isnt as if Jews are by far the most genocided group in history and were genocided from the Arab world. It isnt as if a 2 state solution was offered for peace in the 80s and soundly rejected by Palestinian terrorist. I will never be okay with terror campaigns against civilians from either side. If you live in the US let me take your stuff btw. Possibly assault you and your loved ones too. I have more right to my ancestors lands and its fruits than you.

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          you would literally defend anything though because you’re either getting paid to push this shit ignorantly or are someone who belongs at the bottom of a pit.

          I have more right to my ancestors lands and its fruits than you.

          I agree death to the terrorist american state

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            What a nuanced take. Very unique. Very real. Totally not a talking points machine that has never had an original thought.

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              Totally not a talking points machine that has never had an original thought.

              Judging from the shit you’re pumping out this is also projection.

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                I mean you are the one defending terrorist. Those terrorist had no option than to jeopardize their ceasefire that they never respected nor than to explicitly say they dont give a fuck about Palestinian lives and that they are the UN’s problem. But w/e

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                  The American state bombs hospitals, weddings, murders civilians in its two decade long wars and kills people via collective punishment ‘sanctions’, how is terrorism somehow different?

                  The occupation forces are doing a genocide and you’re pissing your diaper over terrorism fuck you

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                    I love how your kind throws around genocide as if Gaza hasn’t ballooned to several times the population size in a few years. Man how is it that Israel is so bad at genocide? Are they stupid? Just drop bombs on civilian centers and dont tell them dumbasses. SMH. How do they manage to miss so many civilians in a dense population area like that? Wtf. Are their state-of-the-art automatic bombs that hit where rockets where shot from really that bad at ignoring that and hitting concentrated areas? SMH. What a dumb argument. If yall keep using genocide for everything its really gonna lose all its meaning as it already is. If Israel wanted to, they could easily wipe out 99% of life in the Gaza strip. WW2 combing campaigns easily got more than all the bombings this campaign so far in just 4 raids.

                    And angry about terrorism? Ya. I mean you are welcome to celebrate the beheading and burning of people alive and the brutality. That just makes you evil. The path to peace isn’t by continuing to be terrorist. Israel would want nothing more than to stop having to deal with Palestine.

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              I’m agreeing with you america should be dismantled and existing property turned over for redistribution

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        Here’s a fun “tickle your brain” moment. How many Israelis are descendants of ethnically cleansed Jews from other middle eastern states? The other half of the catastrophe that Hamas supporters really don’t want to talk about.

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          Yes, europe making a colony of the people it ethnically cleansed to do their dirty work on an entirely different set of people is really gross, glad we agree.

          Israel could stop being an ethnostate, instead of disenfranchising non-jews and sterilizing non-white jews.

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            Isn’t just about 20% of the Israeli population Arab? Again: Europe didn’t ethnically cleanse the Middle East. That’d be the belligerents of ‘48 who went from sizable Jewish populations to populations you can count on a hand. You know, a good ol’ fashioned ethnic cleansing.

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              Isn’t just about 20% of the Israeli population Arab?

              do they get to vote the same as Jews?

              Europeans are just projecting their guilt and instrumentalizing the very people they ethnically cleansed to do their dirty work. It’s sick.

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                Yes… If you’re an Israeli citizen, you’re an Israeli citizen. There’s a sizable proportion of Arabs in Israel, particularly East Jerusalem who chose to hold Jordan citizenship rather than Israeli, and cannot vote.

                Shit, if the Palestinian Arabs who could vote, did, Bibi would likely not be in power and things may have turned out differently.

                https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/18/arab-citizens-of-israel-hold-the-key-to-next-months-election/

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                  Just gotta change the war machine bombing your families from the inside with hope and change. got it.

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                    … You don’t understand this conflict at all, do you? Bibi’s a bastard, but if eligible-to-vote Arab citizens of Israel showed up to vote against the shitheels anywhere near as well as the shitbag American Christian settler contingent, his party could not have formed a government and, since he is currently charged with corruption, his competitor parties wouldn’t have fallen in line to give him a joint government.