• inventa@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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      1 year ago

      Reading through the comments in their post I’m losing the little sympathy I was feeling. It looks like the moderation tool they are hoping for is one that allows their users to access other communities while preventing the other communities from accessing beehaw. That feels shortsighted and selfish, and I would think most communities on that end on the block would block them reciprocally.

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        It looks like the moderation tool they are hoping for is one that allows their users to access other communities while preventing the other communities from accessing beehaw.

        Was this in the comments of the defederation post or one of the other ones? I’m just curious to read it myself.

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              I think the comment they were referring to is this one: #264724

              BTW FYI the two links you posted are not to the same comment. The second one is from a total different discussion too.

              The comment id varies from instance to instance.

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                Jerboa doesn’t take me to the comment directly but I’m going to assume this is the one lol

                It was part of the annoucement .

                After reading many comments I think my ‘outrage’ came, as it often does, from misunderstanding. Also, because when singing up most people say don’t overthink it, it doesn’t matter much. But now I’m seeing that it does matter to sign up for an instance with like minded people. As I see more of what seems to be the drive behind beehaw, it doesn’t really resonate with what I want, but that doesn’t make it wrong. It is ok for that group of people. We just need to make sure that communities of general interest that were taking off there because they were one of the largest instances are also present in a more open and accessible place, so we are not restricted to collaborate.

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      They are actively trying to be as clean and friendly as possible, and that’s admirable but the tools don’t exist for them to maintain that if they are fully federated. they are woefully undermoderated for how much traffic they are having to filter.

      Once better mod tools arrive they may be able to re-open to other large instances.

      Perhaps an option in the future would be for them to remain federated but somehow implement post/comment restrictions on outside instances to keep it under control.

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        But that is an issue too. Why would other instances allow them full access while being prevented from collaborating in theirs ?

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          I’m not really keen on their reasons for defederating, but this makes no sense to me. What do I care if a beehaw user is posting good content on my community but I can’t go to their instance? It’s still more content and engagement for my community.

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            I see your point. I was seeing it from the perspective of discouraging stuff to be shared on other communities because it’s already in beehaw, but you’d need an account to participate there.

            But I see what you say, allowing them to contribute to other instances isn’t bad even if they don’t allow those instances to contribute on theirs.

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          That’s each instances choice to make I guess, and it’s part of the freedom of the platform.

          beehaw would be within their rights to do it (effectively going read only to the outside, not currently possible but a requested feature is to have private or invite only communities), and if they are intending to be the clean family friendly option, it would be a valid choice to make if it were possible.

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      many of those are imported from the tier0 Fediblock list, which includes all the instances any decent human being would want to block as well. I don’t see myself wanting any content from pedo dot school or teenagegirls dot biz.

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        many of those are imported from the tier0 Fediblock list, which includes all the instances any decent human being would want to block as well. I don’t see myself wanting any content from pedo dot school or teenagegirls dot biz.