It is battle tested, standardized, widely used, have open source servers and apps, end-to-end encryption (OMEMO), self-hostable and are low on ressources and federated / decentralized.

I use it with family and friends. Conversations and blabber.im on android and Gajim on Linux. There’s also apps for windows and Apple.

Curious if anyone here use it and why, why not?

EDIT: Doh. In these Lemmy times I forgot federated. Added.

  • floofloof@lemmy.ca
    9·
    2 years ago

    My colleagues and I had set up a nice self-hosted XMPP server which everyone could use to chat in-house without any of the traffic leaving our network. We had it end-to-end encrypted and it was quick and easy. Then management (with the support of a few employees who like hype) switched us to Slack. It wasn’t private, all our confidential messages went out to the internet, and many people didn’t like it. Once management got frustrated wit it they switched us to Microsoft Teams. After using that for a year, I miss Slack. Teams is a bloated buggy mess with a UI designed to confuse, and it also has all the disadvantages of Slack.

    A few of us have secretly switched to Matrix and Element. It’s good. Don’t tell management.

    • zekiz@kbin.social
      5·
      2 years ago

      Reminds me of a company I recently got an job interview to (and got declined, but I would’ve declined anyway).

      They were switching around their software every year and are currently in the process of migrating to Teams

    • kalipike@kbin.social
      3·
      2 years ago

      @floofloof I would love to move to Matrix/Element but don’t know a single person who uses it, so it doesn’t seem like it would much benefit me unfortunately. I do still have an account though.

      @privsecfoss

      • Scott@lem.free.as
        1·
        2 years ago

        Install some bridges. I’ve managed to remove all those third party chat apps from my devices and just use Matrix to chat to everyone whether they’re on Slack, Discord, WhatsApp, IRC, etc.

        • dwindling7373
          1·
          2 years ago

          Can hyou point me on some good material to learn about them? I’ve been reading about those for years but never crossed a guide…

            • dwindling7373
              1·
              2 years ago

              Thanks, it’s very useful, sadly it looks a bit like the stuff of nightmare prone to breaking at the worst possible moment…

    • Widget@kbin.social
      2·
      2 years ago

      the boss could technically read anything we wrote

      My old work actually ran into some issues because they couldn’t see DMs/private channels.

      Maybe this is a cloud vs. self-hosted thing? It’s been a few years since I’ve worked there though.

      • floofloof@lemmy.ca
        3·
        2 years ago

        In an average workplace that seems like a bit of a losing battle to fight since everyone can message each other on personal phones anyway. But I can see it if it’s a workplace that handles sensitive information and restricts the use of personal devices.

        My workplace went remote-only. So they don’t really stand a chance of preventing us messaging each other on our personal devices. I do try to keep the work machine separate though.

    • moon_matter@kbin.social
      2·
      2 years ago

      the boss could technically read anything we wrote

      That’s honestly a very reasonable ask. Employees should have no expectation of privacy while using corporate owned machines on a corporate owned network. They need to be able to keep tabs on communications in order to ensure company data doesn’t leak. It would be crazy to allow people to handle sensitive company data with no oversight.