• ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
    331·
    1 年前

    What a fuckin lie. Can’t play some Windows 7 games on Windows 10 or above but on Linux it works.

    • tubbadu@lemmy.world
      242·
      1 年前

      Can I install this 20yo software?

      user is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported

      SUDO Can I install this 20yo software?

      Is already installed.

      • Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml
        5·
        1 年前

        Had this exact scenario with an old flatbed scanner. No win10 drivers and it never had mac drivers. Ran without issue in up to date Mint.

      • Aras@feddit.de
        2·
        1 年前

        Actually once recently I had problems because the wifi driver (b43) for the Dell Latitude D505 (2004) wasn’t in the live Boot environment (cause un-free).

    • Slartibartfast@kbin.social
      8·
      1 年前

      If you do echo "3 6 * p" | dc in a terminal it’ll give you the result of 3x6, but the dc part of that is software that was written probably between 1969 and 1971.

    • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml
      2·
      1 年前

      Old Linux software usually has to be completed from source anyway (uhh the effort) which essentially makes it future proof

    • le_saucisson_masque@lemmy.world
      0·
      1 年前

      I know it’s a même but Linux isn’t that good for running old app that have a user interface. Old command line interface works perfectly but that’s mostly for developer.

      windows make it available to everyone.

      It’s one of the few things windows does better, might as well recognize it.

      • dufkm@lemmy.world
        0·
        1 年前

        Old command line interface works perfectly but that’s mostly for developer.

        No. I’m comfortable with command line tools, and I’m far from being a developer. People used DOS etc. as well without being developers.

  • Engywuck@lemmy.ml
    20·
    1 年前
    • “Can you run on this 20 y/o piece of hardware?”
    • Linux: “hold my beer!”
    • deadcream@kbin.social
      21·
      1 年前

      Only if you use 15 years old distribution. Linux actually drops support of older hardware faster than Windows, it just doesn’t happen consistently. Old drivers are maintained by volunteers so if someone wants to spend their free time on a driver for 25 years old hardware then it will work. But the moment that single developer disappears or stops caring then this driver is booted from the kernel fast. Supporting old hardware isn’t the goal of Linux unless someone make it their goal (and core developers don’t care either way as long as it’s not their job).

          • dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world
            08·
            1 年前

            Yes because that is more user friendly than running an executable through a built in compatibility layer… suure

            • ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
              8·
              1 年前

              Who tf wants usability when shit just has a solution no matter what. Additionally its an old program that a normal person wouldn’t even try.

              On windows shit just doesn’t work and the solutions are most of the time not even existing.

            • riskable@kbin.social
              1·
              1 年前

              If you’re trying to get ancient software to work I think “user friendliness” is the least of your concerns. Especially compared to the alternative (Windows) where the answer is just, “No: That’s not going to work no matter what you do.”

    • HoloPengin@lemmy.world
      8·
      1 年前

      Tfw compatibility for some old Windows programs and games is better in Wine than in modern Windows

    • tiltmachine@lemmy.world
      01·
      1 年前

      Most people will need internet connection to Google specific commands to run or install the most trivial things, and it won’t always work depending on what distro you’re using. Oh you’re using MX Linux? Goodluck downloading a Plex client installer and just clicking it to install. Maybe use Snap but then good luck creating a shortcut with just a right click.

      Limux won’t replace Windows anytime soon, not if even enthusiasts need to Google almost everything.

      • constantokra@lemmy.one
        1·
        1 年前

        Bold of you to think I’d install a Plex client when I can just stream video in my terminal with mplayer in glorious ASCII.

        And why would you search the internet when there’s a manual built right in?

  • gun@lemmy.ml
    13·
    1 年前

    In my experience, Windows can install a 25 year old program, but it won’t work

  • CrownCrafter@lemmy.ml
    11·
    1 年前

    Windows is def better than Mac for backwards compatibility, but nah dude it’s not even close to perfect. Ive had better luck using wine for old windows programs

  • Gerryflap@lemmy.world
    9·
    1 年前

    Not my experience. I’ve had multiple old games and an old printer that just straight up didn’t work under Windows. On Linux however (using wine for the windows exe’s) it usually does run. Sometimes it does require some googling, but there’s usually someone who tried it before.

    • Square Singer@feddit.de
      3·
      1 年前

      Games are actually the hardcore compatibility test. They are much less compatible than the average piece of software. That’s due to them using much more of the hardware/low-level-APIs of the OS, but also due to DRM and Anti-Cheat-Software (where applicable).

      And printers are also (for some reason) super difficult. Probably because they are cheap, planned-obsolescence pieses of crap hardware, which are chock-full of DRM.

  • AlexTheLost@kbin.social
    9·
    1 年前

    Gonna be honest, this isn’t my experience, a lot of stuff just doesn’t work on Windows anymore

    I can get those same programs to work fairly easily on linux though using Wine/Proton

  • tarneo@lemmy.ml
    8·
    1 年前

    More like “Installing… Do you want avast or X or Y installed along with it?” No thanks, I very much prefer Linux package managers.

    • empireOfLove@lemmy.one
      2·
      1 年前

      Yes. It’s 16bit app support for win3.1/95 stuff that ran in the DOS layer that’s depreciated, but even then they’ll sometimes run.

      • flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        1 年前

        We still have some ridiculous genetics algorithm running inside dosbox, of all things, in an App-V virtual environment deployed across a farm of hundreds of Citrix servers running inside various VMware hosts and published up to some geneticist freaks at the hospital I look after.

        It’s absolutely insane…

  • quazar@lemmy.world
    6·
    1 年前

    The third panel of that is LINUX: Can you install this 25 year old program?

    It was already installed on there.

  • Jon-H558@kbin.social
    6·
    1 年前

    if that’s the case why do I still have to support XP as some shop floor measurement device still uses software from that, and window 7 for the database of greases then the likilhood is the windows 10 to windows 11 project is taking 6months planning of impact assessments. (pretty sure if we had let them the tool planning dept would still be running their windows 3.1 lotus suite

    • Shift_@kbin.social
      4·
      1 年前

      Holy run-on sentence. Also it sounds like it’s the measuring device that doesn’t support newer the newer OS, not the other way around. Also migrating a database is possible, it just takes a ton of work.

  • AnonTwo@kbin.social
    4·
    1 年前

    My dosbox and multiple attempts to build VMs of windows 3.1 say this isn’t completely true

    • MudMan@kbin.social
      10·
      1 年前

      Man, I hate to break it to you, but the Windows version from 25 years ago is… Windows 98.

      I know, I know. I’m so sorry. I felt like that when I noticed, too.

      • marcos@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 年前

        Win98 software also do not work reliably on modern Windows. Microsoft abandoned that kind of compatibility a while ago for a mix of both good and bad reasons.

        You will have better odds of running it on ReactOS or Linux.