Maine barred Donald Trump from the primary ballot Thursday, making it the second state in the country to block the former president from running again under a part of the Constitution that prevents insurrectionists from holding office.

The decision by Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows (D) is sure to be appealed. The Colorado Supreme Court last week found Trump could not appear on the ballot in that state, and the Colorado Republican Party has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case. The nation’s high court could resolve for all states whether Trump can run again.

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  • Clbull@lemmy.world
    1147·
    11 months ago

    If this picks up steam, we could very well see another Republican candidate (most likely DeSantis) win the nomination and become Joe Biden’s opponent.

    On the other hand, the SCOTUS is Republican controlled. They already got Roe V Wade overturned and could very well rule in Trump’s favour.

    Part of me truly worries that America will be the first to fall to a new wave of Fascism, and that this will spur further swings in Europe. (AfD are performing alarmingly well in East Germany, whilst Le Pen has been closer than ever before to winning the French presidency.)

    • eestileib@sh.itjust.works
      8411·
      11 months ago

      DeSantis would get fucking wrecked in a national race, Biden’s team would laugh their asses off, then get back to sending crib-seeking missiles to Netanyahu.

        • eestileib@sh.itjust.works
          5·
          11 months ago

          Trump had charisma, DeSantis has anti-charisma. The more people see of him the less people like him. He pissed off big business with his Disney stuff.

          There’s a reason his campaign is in hospice care.

          If it isn’t Trump it’ll be Haley. She would have a real shot.

          But it’s gonna be Trump anyway, so this is kind of moot.

      • Clbull@lemmy.world
        216·
        11 months ago

        You underestimate just how disliked Biden is, and how many Americans honestly believe that Trump had the last election stolen from him.

        Also, the fact that Trump survived two impeachments, spurred an attempted insurrection and is only now starting to face state/federal charges that in any other democracy would have had him immediately struck off from the ballot is worrying. It’s set precedent that could allow a more sane, manipulative and competent candidate to commandeer the country.

        The only possible good that could come out of a DeSantis nomination would be if Trump ran as an independent in protest and heavily split the right wing vote, which would guarantee a second Biden term.

    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
      562·
      11 months ago

      If this picks up steam, we could very well see another Republican candidate (most likely DeSantis) win the nomination and become Joe Biden’s opponent.

      That’s the entire point, isn’t it? To prevent the insurrectionist from being on the ballot, not “prevent the republicans from being on the ballot.”

      • shastaxc@lemm.ee
        1·
        11 months ago

        More than that, some people will still vote for Trump as a write in, which will split the Republican vote and force them to lose

      • Metz@lemmy.world
        261·
        11 months ago

        Yes. The former DDR part is commonly still called that. It still differs noticeably from the West in terms of culture and level of development. Unfortunately, the entire region has moved significantly to the right politically. So much even that an openly right-wing extremist party has a majority in multiple parts of it.

          • limelight79@lemm.ee
            2·
            11 months ago

            We have a group at work that uses the abbreviation “DDRC”. I often think of them as the Dance Dance Revolution Committee. Their actual purpose is much, much less fun.

            (I also often say “Time has no meaning there” about them, referencing Star Trek Generations. Because they literally do not care how long they delay projects. It’s not their problem, and they refuse to even acknowledge there is a concern. I really hate dealing with them, if you haven’t guessed.)

    • Neil@lemmy.mlEnglish
      65·
      11 months ago

      I hate to say it, but the world is overdue for a new world war. Fascism seems to rise when the previous generation that experienced Fascism dies off. Nobody who went through it wants that to happen again, but like toddlers, we need to touch the stove to learn it’s hot.

      • seejur@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        11 months ago

        Correction: the rich want another world war and are pushing for it. The brainwashing that has been going on for years wasn’t paid by your average joe.

        And as usual, it will be paid with the blood of the poor

      • JonEFive@midwest.social
        463·
        11 months ago

        I always hate the “moving to Canada” thing. American hubris leads them to believe that they can just emigrate to whatever country they like without barriers. That’s not how it works.

        Just like the USA, Canada isn’t going to grant citizenship to every rando who approaches their borders.

        I will say this though, depending on where they’re coming from in the US, and what they’ve experienced in terms of threats and persecution, I could see there being a case for requests for asylum for LGBT+ people trying to escape to Canada. And that’s sad as hell for all of us.

      • Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world
        151·
        11 months ago

        Uh… What do you mean “if they win”? The LGBTQIA community here in Canada has dramatically expanded with Americans looking to apply for citizenship. LGBTQIA protections and civil rights are crumbling in the States even without the GOP strictly in power. The Exodus is already underway.

        • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
          183·
          11 months ago

          There are more queers in America than there are people in Canada.

          You ain’t seen nothing yet.

          Going to be some absolutely amazing looking refugee tents at some point tho

          • WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world
            131·
            11 months ago

            I thought this couldn’t possibly be right, and it isn’t quite, but the numbers are way closer than I realized.

            Canada only has around 37 million people. I always thought there were far more just because of how big Canada is. Guess I’ve been a standard uneducated American. US population is around 333 million. Latest estimate I can find is 7.2% queer which is roughly 24 million people.

            Not all of those will need to flee, and those who do may not be financially able to flee. Others won’t want to for the reasons most people don’t want to leave their home. Many straight passing people will be “fine”. Most trans people will want to for medical care at least, and most I know (myself included) are currently migrating to more progressive states if not to Canada yet. Trans numbers in the US are hard to nail down, but highest estimate is 1% which is only 3 million.

      • Powerpoint@lemmy.ca
        101·
        11 months ago

        We have a bigot/ fascist lover here in Canada called Pierre Poilievre who’s in the lead in the polls. If something doesn’t change between now and 2025 Canada may fall to the far right as well.

        • WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world
          33·
          11 months ago

          Trump was unpredictable in 2016. He talked a big game, but we had no idea what laws he’d pass, what his policies would be, etc. Sadly many voted for him because he was seen as an “outsider” since people were tired of standard politicians.

          Now we have a good idea what he’ll do, January 6th happened, and Trump has been vocal about trans genocide specifically.