What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation
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  • erwan@lemmy.mlEnglish
    35·
    11 months ago

    It doesn’t matter if the kid is smart and determined, parental controls can’t be circumvented.

    Unless the parent is stupid enough to leave their phones unlocked or lax enough to unblock the phone every time the kid asks for it.

    • ozymandias117@lemmy.worldEnglish
      65·
      11 months ago

      I think you’re being a little naive…

      Circumventing parental controls that “couldn’t be circumvented” is what I did as a child that led to me being a computer programmer

      • erwan@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        11 months ago

        We’re not talking about the dumb parental controls from the 90’s or 2000’s and run on Windows, we’re talking about smartphone OSes (iOS and Android) that are locked down to start with.

        • ozymandias117@lemmy.worldEnglish
          01·
          11 months ago

          Security is really hard, and these operating systems are built with new features and release dates as the primary concerns

          If you’re trying to follow proper security practices as of today, ensure the device is up to date and rebooted daily

          Use the parental control features as one part of parenting, but don’t expect them to be infallible

      • SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeoEnglish
        42·
        11 months ago

        No, they literally can’t be bypassed unless they figure out the passcode. Parental controls on iOS are part of the OS, not like the easily bypassed software you would install on a computer.

        • Randomgal@lemmy.caEnglish
          43·
          11 months ago

          Sure they are buddy. Perfect security. Why would anyone think otherwise?

          • SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeoEnglish
            31·
            11 months ago

            Apple screen time parental Controls were created because third party software was using MDM which Apple didn’t like. If Apple can lock down a phone with mdm for companies to give to their employees why exactly do you think software built into the OS is easy to get around like net nanny?

            Googling found an article about getting around it.

            Nothing on there an 8 year old would do and there’s directions on how to prevent any of it. You can lock down changing system settings or even stop them from editing their contacts.

        • ozymandias117@lemmy.worldEnglish
          34·
          11 months ago

          One of the ways I got around my parent’s settings after getting caught by simply resetting their password was by using alternate operating systems on livecds

          Saying they literally can’t be bypassed is why I’m saying it’s naive to trust them implicitly

          • SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeoEnglish
            41·
            11 months ago

            So… are you going to link the live cd that works on iPhones or just going to continue talking about the net nanny days? iOS is locked down. Nothing is bulletproof but a child isn’t going to find a way around it.

            • ozymandias117@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              11 months ago

              I only know how to get around my employer’s device settings for iOS. I would have to have access to your phone to try to get around them

              The issue I have with your comment is “a child isn’t going to find a way around it” I was much more motivated to find a way around settings my parents set on devices when I was a child, and I definitely shared how to do it with my friends

              Maybe your settings are secure, but it’s not trivial for most parents